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kingsina
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RX580 24.8.1 driver automatically downgrades to 24.3.1

I just downloaded the new 24.8.1 AMD Software and after I installed that, it automatically downgrades to 24.3.1 driver. I have XFX RX 580

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The reason why your RX 580 automatically downgrades to AMD driver version 24.3.1 is because that is the last latest version from AMD download for your GPU card: https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/graphics/radeon-600-500-400/radeon-rx-500-seri...

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Most likely version 24.8.1 is not compatible with your RX 580.  Need to wait for AMD to update your GPU RXX 580 AMD driver.

 

All RX 400,500, & 600 has 'Limited driver support" which means that the latest AMD drivers are not compatible and if they are compatible only certain features will work that are still supported by the RX 400,500, &600 series GPU cards.

 

Here is AMD Driver version 24.8.1 "Release Notes" under GPU Compatibility it shows that all RX 400,500, 600 GPU series cards are not compatible: https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-8-1.html

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riad208
Adept I

the same thing with Ryzen 5600G Vega 7

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What is your windows version?

I'm on Dev 27686.1000.
Maybe it's because of that?

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Windows 11 23h2 , updated to latest

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treyreed15
Journeyman III

mine did the same thing and now i cant get back to 24.7.1 

 

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FunkZ
Grandmaster

It appears 24.7.1 was moved to Previous Drivers when 24.8.1 was initially made available, but then when 24.8.1 was withdrawn it wasn't moved back to current.

Check the product page for your graphics and go to Previous Drivers link, see if 24.7.1 is available for download there.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/previous-drivers.html/graphics/radeon-600-500-400/radeon-rx...

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The reason why your RX 580 automatically downgrades to AMD driver version 24.3.1 is because that is the last latest version from AMD download for your GPU card: https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/graphics/radeon-600-500-400/radeon-rx-500-seri...

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Most likely version 24.8.1 is not compatible with your RX 580.  Need to wait for AMD to update your GPU RXX 580 AMD driver.

 

All RX 400,500, & 600 has 'Limited driver support" which means that the latest AMD drivers are not compatible and if they are compatible only certain features will work that are still supported by the RX 400,500, &600 series GPU cards.

 

Here is AMD Driver version 24.8.1 "Release Notes" under GPU Compatibility it shows that all RX 400,500, 600 GPU series cards are not compatible: https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-8-1.html

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My friend, AMD actually releases a new update every time, look at the picture

Only this update, it is not actually 24.8.1 but there is an error, either in the link or a technical error from AMD

The second update that is released every two months is called combined, this will be the best

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Okay I see that AMD has a special combined version that is compatible with the RX 500 series GPU cards only mentioned in the "Release Notes" but not mentioned nor shown in the main AMD Download page.

 

Systems pairing RDNA series graphics products with Polaris or Vega series graphics products:

 

I believe that the Graphics technology in the non-combined Version 24.8.1, most of it is not compatible with the older technologies of RX 400, 500, 600 & Vega GPU cards. Thus it is limited to those parts of the driver that are still compatible with the Non-RDNA GPU cards. 

 

Everyone with Non-RDNA GPU RX GPU cards will just need to wait until AMD officially updates the latest AMD Driver for the RX400, 500, 600 & Vega GPU cards from version 24.3.1 .

 

EDIT: But there seems to be an updated AMD Driver newer than 24.3.1 that is compatible which is a previous AMD Driver  24.7.1 as mentioned by FunkZ in his reply which he supplied a link to: https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-7-1-POLARIS-VEGA.html

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Looks like AMD hasn't updated their AMD Download page showing that the latest AMD driver for the RX 400, 500 & Vega GPU Cards is actually version 24.7.1

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I think it's their way to make us buy new cards. Im vey angry and will buy Geforce not radeon. Never again.

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AMD has said many times that the RDNA and Polaris/Vega drivers are separate, why do you think a driver marked "RDNA" will support the RX 580?

 

The link https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-8-1.html is RDNA driver. NOT Polaris/Vega driver.

 

Latest Polaris/Vega driver > https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-3-1-POLARIS-VEGA.html

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First show me in my previous reply where I said that driver version 24.8.1 will support RX 580? 

 

I mentioned that most likely it was INCOMPATIBLE in my previous reply and I verified through the driver's Release Notes that it was incompatible. The OP didn't know realize that.

 

Second I also mentioned that AMD now only has "LIMITED SUPPORT" for all RX 400, 500, & 600 and VEGA GPU cards.

 

I was showing and explaining to the OP that the driver that he was trying to install for his RX 580 version 24.8.1 was not compatible with his GPU card which is why it downgraded to the latest compatible version 24.3.1 that is compatible.

 

Your two links shows which Drivers are compatible and which aren't.

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i really need help i've already downloaded amd 24.7.1 before 24.8.1 release but i wanted to reinstall to 24.8.1 but it is not compatible and then i tried to download back the24.7.1 but now it downgrades to 24.3.1 and COD warzone only supports 24.8.1 and now i have to download 24.3.1 so my game will not work properly....! 

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Yup, looks like AMD removed 24.7.1 from drivers download for Polaris/Vega for some reason. Not sure why, I've been running it on my Vega graphics since 6/18 with no problems.

Anyway, the Polaris/Vega graphics family originally launched in 2017 and the drivers are on "limited support" which means they're not updated as often.

It's unfortunate especially for Vega owners as some very recently released products still use Vega graphics (5000 series G desktop and mobile processors) and are only a few years old.

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Either upgrade your RX 500 series GPU card to a newer AMD GPU card or wait until AMD officially updates its RX 400, 500, 600 and VEGA GPU cards at AMD Download page.

 

Otherwise you will be out of luck to try to run a game that the latest AMD driver uses technology that the RX 500 GPU cards simply doesn't possess.

 

According to version 24.7.1 it does show to be compatible with the RX 500 GPU cards but if you installed it and it again reverted to the last compatible 24.3.1 driver seem to indicate it isn't 100% compatible.

 

I would open a AMD SUPPORT Ticket and asked why 24.7.1 that shows it to be compatible with your GPU card still downgrades to version 24.3.1. : https://www.amd.com/en/forms/contact-us/support.html

 

Note: Make sure to use Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) to remove your current AMD driver before installing the AMD driver again.  Otherwise some traces of the previous AMD driver in your PC might corrupt the installation of your present AMD driver installation.

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Same issue, why is this marked as solved though ? getting downgraded to 24.3.1 doesn't sound as a fix to me. It sounds like someone messed up and should maybe fix things ?

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AMD announced, I last year, that the RX 400, 500, 600 & Vega Series GPU cards will have "Limited Support" in the future.

 

Found this Tom's Hardware article last year concerning the "Limited Support" by AMD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/its-curtains-for-polaris-and-vega-as-amd-reduces-dri...

The final death for a computer part isn't when it's taken off store shelves, but when software support ends. AMD is ending regular driver updates for its Polaris and Vega GPUs: some of AMD's most popular and notorious cards from the RX 400, 500, and Vega series are riding into the sunset.

AMD has only officially acknowledged that Polaris and Vega driver support is now irregular, but the company actually enacted this change in September. The 23.9.3 driver, though ostensibly available for Polaris and Vega just like RDNA-based GPUs, actually had different software under the hood for Polaris and Vega graphics. October's 23.10.2 driver didn't even come to AMD's veteran GPUs.

In a statement to Anandtech, AMD stated that Polaris and Vega GPUs will continue to receive a level of support that's "greater than for products AMD categorizes as legacy." AMD's legacy products normally get zero driver updates except to fix critical bugs. This means Polaris and Vega will still receive semi-regular bug fixing drivers, but won't see any new features, such as Fluid Motion Frames.

A complicating factor in ending normal support for Vega GPUs is the fact the architecture was used for all but the latest AMD APUs. Only Ryzen 6000, 7035, 7040, and 7045 APUs use RDNA instead of Vega, which is still actively sold in the Ryzen 7020 and 7030 series.

Polaris and Vega were the last representatives of AMD's previous GCN architecture, which the company introduced in 2011 with its HD 7000 series. GCN propelled AMD to success initially as HD 7000 and Radeon 200 graphics cards were quite competitive with Nvidia's GTX 600 and 700 GPUs.

The R9 Fury X however was the last GCN card to truly compete with an Nvidia flagship, as the Vega-powered RX Vega 64 and Radeon VII could only catch up to the GTX 1080 and RTX 2080, respectively. Meanwhile, Polaris was used for the RX 400 and 500 series, which were well-received — though getting pretty old by the time they were replaced by RDNA cards. 

Polaris and Vega leave behind a messy chapter in the history of AMD graphics, but it is a little sad to see them go. These GPUs were never all that successful, but nonetheless were a crucial part in AMD's journey to where it is today.

 

Personally, I believe, AMD will sometime in the very near future delegate all RX 400, 500, 600, and certain Vega GPU cards as legacy and not supported anymore due to advancing technologies that are incompatible with the above mentioned GPU Cards.

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This tech site was the one to actually prove about AMD intentions for the Polaris and Vega series GPU cards: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21126/amd-reduces-ongoing-driver-support-for-polaris-and-vega-gpus

As AMD is now well into their third generation of RDNA architecture GPUs, the sun has been slowly setting on AMD’s remaining Graphics Core Next (GCN) designs, better known by the architecture names of Polaris and Vega. In recent weeks the company dropped support for those GPU architectures in their open source Vulkan Linux driver, AMDVLK, and now we have confirmation that the company is slowly winding down support for these architectures in their Windows drivers as well.

Under AMD’s extended driver support schedule for Polaris and Vega, the drivers for these architectures will no longer be kept at feature parity with the RDNA architectures. And while AMD will continue to support Polaris and Vega for some time to come, that support is being reduced to security updates and “functionality updates as available.”

For AMD users keeping a close eye on their driver releases, they’ll likely recognize that AMD already began this process back in September – though AMD hasn’t officially documented the change until now. As of AMD’s September Adrenaline 23.9 driver series, AMD split up the RDNA and GCN driver packages, and with that they have also split the driver branches between the two architectures. As a result, only RDNA cards are receiving new features and updates as part of AMD’s mainline driver branch (currently 23.20), while the GCN cards have been parked on a maintenance driver branch – 23.19.

At present, AMD has not published anything about this change in driver support to their website. But, responding to a request for a comment on Windows driver support from AnandTech, the company provided the following statement:

The AMD Polaris and Vega graphics architectures are mature, stable and performant and don’t benefit as much from regular software tuning.  Going forward, AMD is providing critical updates for Polaris- and Vega-based products via a separate driver package, including important security and functionality updates as available.  The committed support is greater than for products AMD categorizes as legacy, and gamers can still enjoy their favorite games on Polaris and Vega-based products.

Notably, AMD is actively asserting that this is not “legacy” status for Vega and Polaris, which is an important distinction because of what “legacy” means within AMD’s ecosystem. For AMD, legacy products are effectively considered end-of-life, and ongoing driver support is retired. Which in the case of previous generation GPU architectures going legacy, AMD did not have any further driver releases of any kind planned – though in practice AMD did release a couple of drivers to fix critical security issues.

AMD’s support plans for Vega and Polaris, by contrast, still call for regular driver releases, albeit without major feature updates or performance optimizations. That means receiving bug fixes and other occasional updates as AMD sees fit to backport them to the older driver branch, but not the full scope of updates that AMD’s RDNA products are now receiving via their up-to-date mainline driver. In practice, this is much closer to how NVIDIA has handled their legacy GPU products, which have traditionally received security fixes for a minimum length of time – making for a more welcome offramp for going from fully supported to unsupported.

 

 

But regardless of what AMD is calling their driver support policy for Polaris and Vega, the end result is that major driver development for these GPU architectures has effectively come to an end, and these parts have now entered an extended support phase. AMD considers the drivers for the hardware mature, and with games increasingly taking advantage of features not supported by the hardware (e.g. Alan Wake II and mesh shaders), there’s clearly less of a need to add support/optimizations for new games to drivers for old hardware.

More broadly speaking, with the current high-end game consoles using a RDNA2-ish (DX feature level 12_2) architecture, we’re finally approaching a rather hard switch that will be leaving pre-12_2 GPUs behind. Consequently, I’m not surprised to see AMD semi-retire both Polaris and Vega at the same time – there is a clear gulf in archtiecture between GCN and the greatly reworked RDNA that underpins AMD’s more recent cards.

AMD Recent GPU Driver Releases
Adrenaline RDNA GCN 4 & 5
23.11.1 (November) 23.20.23.01 23.19.05.01
23.10.2 (October) 23.20.17.03 N/A
23.9.3 (September) 23.20.11.04 23.19.02
23.8.2 (August) 23.10.29.06

As AMD enacted this driver split back in September, we can already see some of the ramifications of this with AMD’s latest drivers. Polaris and Vega did not receive an October driver release (Adrenaline 23.10), and the November release (Adrenaline 23.11.1) contains only a handful of fixes for GCN cards, as opposed to the much more extensive list of fixes and new game support for RDNA cards.

Ultimately, while the remaining GCN GPUs haven’t been put out to pasture quite yet, this is clearly the beginning of the end for a line of GPU architectures that stretches back to AMD’s 2011 GPU architecture modernization. AMD has been selling Polaris (GCN 4) cards since mid-2016 – starting over seven years ago – and in practice the core compute and graphics architecture of GCN 4 is virtually identical to the even older GCN 3 architecture. Consequently, AMD has essentially been supporting that core GPU architecture for almost 9 years at this point.

GCN 4 & 5 Products
Desktop Mobile
Radeon VII Radeon 600 Mobile Series
Radeon RX Vega Series Radeon 500 Mobile Series
Radeon Pro Duo Radeon 400 Mobile Series
Radeon 600 Series Ryzen Mobile 7030U Series
Radeon RX 500 Series Ryzen Mobile 5000 Series
Radeon RX 400 Series Ryzen Mobile 4000 Series
Ryzen 5000G Series APUs Ryzen Mobile 3000 Series
Ryzen 4000G Series APUs Ryzen Mobile 2000 Series
Ryzen 3000G Series APUs  
Ryzen 2000G Series APUs  

Meanwhile, things are a little more short-lived for the newer Vega GPU architecture (GCN 5). While AMD introduced the first discrete Vega GPUs and video cards in mid-2017 – and replaced the whole lot of them in mid-2019 – that GPU architecture remained in use in current-generation products for much longer as an integrated graphics solution. AMD’s current desktop APUs, the Ryzen 5000G series, integrate a Vega GPU. And the same silicon is still sold in the mobile space as the budget-minded Ryzen Mobile 7030 series. So although the Vega architecture is only a year younger than Polaris, it has stuck around for much longer overall.

Unfortunately, that does also mean that these Vega-based APUs are also getting something of the short end of the stick when it comes to driver support, receiving only a few years of mainstream driver support before being deprioritized. Though as these are also the weakest Vega GPUs, they’re admittedly also the least likely to be used with new games. More critical here will be how long AMD supplies security fixes for the Vega GPU architecture, especially since GPU drivers are popular targets for privilege escalation attacks.

In any case, while this isn’t a eulogy for the final members of the Graphics Core Next GPU architecture – at least, not quite yet – it’s clear that, 12 years later, GCN’s time is finally approaching its end.

 

So there really isn't any "Fix" as per @EphemeralP  suggestion. The only fix will be to upgrade your AMD GPU card that is still fully supported by AMD in the future. 

 

As gaming technology becomes more advanced the Polaris and Vega GPU cards will become closer to Legacy status in the future since the Polaris and Vega AMD Drivers won't be compatible with the newer games coming out.

 
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I think it's their way to make us buy new cards. Im vey angry and will buy Geforce not radeon. Never again.

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maverick007
Journeyman III

I would like to know if anyone has any news regarding the 24.8.1 update for the rx580 video card? Are they working to release this update for this card or not? Could anyone please inform me?

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