PC Drivers & Software

[gfanini]

Are there any AMD SATA AHCI drivers for windows 10 more up to date than 1.3.1.276 of 2015, because at times it appears sluggish with high disk access latency possibly.

[kingfish]

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[noodles59]

Win10? would be nice it would actually install - the MS AHCI driver stays in place and is dated back to 2006

[gfanini]

inside amd_sata.inf there is reference to power plans I selected high performance :

powercfg /l


This'll show you your powerschemes with their GUID (example:)

Existing Power Schemes (* Active)
-----------------------------------
Power Scheme GUID: 381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e  (Balanced)
Power Scheme GUID: 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c  (High performance) *
Power Scheme GUID: a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a  (Power saver)

amd_sata.inf :

DriverVer=03/29/2015,1.2.001.0402

; High Performance

Default = {8C5E7FDA-E8BF-4A96-9A85-A6E23A8C635C}, 0, 0

Default = {8C5E7FDA-E8BF-4A96-9A85-A6E23A8C635C}, 1, 1

; Balanced

Default = {381B4222-F694-41F0-9685-FF5BB260DF2E}, 0, 1

Default = {381B4222-F694-41F0-9685-FF5BB260DF2E}, 1, 2

; Power Saving

Default = {A1841308-3541-4FAB-BC81-F71556F20B4A}, 0, 2

Default = {A1841308-3541-4FAB-BC81-F71556F20B4A}, 1, 2

would this be enough or does it require a specific windows 10 driver.

[noodles59]

Perhaps try the original AHCI driver for win10?

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[elstaci]

AMD SATA driver has been replaced by the current MS SATA Driver. Even though it says 2006 if you look at the version, it is the same as the WIndows version so it is the latest.

There was one or two threads earlier concerning AMD not having a SATA Driver. According to the AMD Moderators, the SATA Drivers are now provided by Microsoft as a native driver in Windows 10.

Here one where amdmatt​ replied concerning AMD SATA DRIVERS:

Re: AMD sata controler

amdmatt Jun 4, 2018 5:55 AM (in response to sgoyal)

If you are using Windows 10, we use the Microsoft provided Sata driver so there is no driver to download.

I do believe the last driver was from 2015 from AMD.

[Matt_AMD]

That's correct, we use the in the box Sata driver provided by Microsoft for Windows 10.

[benman2785]

are you sure that its the driver and not your HDD being in powersave?

most HDDs dont allow 24/7 use - and so will stop spinning and power down
if you own a 24/7 HDD you should disable the powersave features for HDDs

[gfanini]

it's thinkable the hard disk firmware might be instantaneously waking/sleeping unbeknownst to me of course, however I suspect AMD know better if the SATA driver under windows 10 could be made more responsive/snappier ...

[benman2785]

...
AMD uses the MS driver for SATA in Win10http://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

can you run some benchmarks?

http://www.userbenchmark.com/Software

also it looks like its a laptop - ever considered buying a SSD? because Win10 + HDD is slooowwww

[gfanini]

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10147581

the weak point is the hard disk/controller : http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10197006

[benman2785]

ty
first of all you use only 1 ram stick - single-channel is slow // try to buy the same stick you already have (hope it is not soldered)
2nd: your HDD is underperforming - maybe because of ram issue, maybe other issues
3rd: your CPU and GPU are underperforming - again because of ram - but also other issues - like heat etc

so first of all buy ram - fit for your laptop; as fast as possible
then we can continue testing

also - looks like a heat problem for CPU and GPU - summertime - buy a good laptop cooler (20-30eur) - can help

those low-midrange AMD Laptops are often poorly cooled, or crippled by OEM to save some money - while they could perform well with good cooling and dual-channel high-speed ram etc

but we can try to improve your experience

[gfanini]

I did put an external fan, the temperature is at about 50°C I suspect by the cpu automatically throttling back, could it be thinkable that Microsoft/AMD or this external driver improve support for SATA AHCI controller AM4 I believe is the model under windows 10 64 bit ?

Universal ATA/SATA/AHCI driver for Windows NT3.51/NT4/2000/XP/2003/7/ReactOS

[benman2785]

...
AMD uses the official SATA driver from Microsoft - you dont need to update that!
and again - you use singlechannel ram - that creates latency to your system

also: if you buy ram you can also buy a cheap ssd - like mx500 525gb - that will work fine

[gfanini]

to change ram/hard disk I think I'd have to open the notebook, perhaps voiding the warranty, because it seems all sealed, not even removable battery.

however your insistence on memory, which seems to be 8 gb DDR4, in my opinion should be fine for responsiveness, not that I need to do anything blazingly fast note, has given me a clue, that, perhaps, there might be some memory bound process, hogging the memory bus, like an anti virus or something of the sort, disabling a windows 10 cortana search seems to help a little, I tried profiling memory access system wide with AMD uprof profiler there doesn't seem to emerge any obvious memory bandwidth hogs.

There are also "backgroundhost.exe" in "suspended" which look a bit odd.

[benman2785]

when you are in EU it is ok to replace ram or harddrive even if its sealed - simple replacements are considered "do-able" for normal people
please get infos about your countries laws

8GB Ram can be 1x 8GB or 2x4GB - but 2x4GB are way faster

pls run http://www.userbenchmark.com/

[gfanini]

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/10197006​

it seems to report 2 Samsung dimms :

M471A5143SB1-CRC

4GB RAM Speicher - SAMSUNG - M471A5143SB1-CRC DDR4 SO DIMM 2400MHz PC4

M471A5244CB0-CRC

M471A5244CB0-CRC | Samsung Semiconductor Global Website

are there any utilities like there used to be AMD overdrive to set cpu speed, monitor memory bandwidth for A10 cpu possibly.

[benman2785]

ur ram is fine - working as expected and in dual-channel

AMD overdrive on laptops didnt oc the cpu
for e-350 or e-450 was a oc tool available - but not for newer APUs

again - you can try a SSD - that will reduce the lag by your "not so fast" hdd

[gfanini]

I still have a working AMD A6 notebook which can be oc by a tool K10stat, LLano (A4, A6, A8) there seems to be a tool fusion tweaker, and I see brazos tweaker for C50, C60, E350, E450, so there is nothing to oc A10, that should be the thing to try in my opinion because it feels like driving a car with the hand brake partly on, also with the A6 unless I oc it to "uniform" multipliers it feels "wobbly" because of lower multipliers, it's ok if you need to save battery but unnerving if powered from mains, minimum cpu is already 100% in power plan.

It might be possible to modify the source code of "brazos tweaker" which I see supports up to family 14h, for family 15h A10 bristol ridge cpu.

An old AMD PScheck of 2011 yields : cputopology unknown family.

I think I found something that works on A10 cpu : AmdMsrTweaker, it is with source code too but it would seem only the voltages can be set, but not multipliers which seem locked, if anybody has any clue if multipliers possibly modifiable :

  AMD family 0x15, model 0x65 CPU, 4 cores

  Default reference clock: 100 MHz

  Available multipliers: 1 .. 63

  Available voltage IDs: 0 .. 1.55 (0.0125 steps)

.:. Turbo

---

  enabled

  unlocked

  Max multiplier: 36

.:. P-states

---

  8 of 8 enabled (P0 .. P7)

  Turbo P-states: P0 P1 P2

  ---

  P0: 35x at 1.1625V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P1: 30x at 0.9V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P2: 27x at 0.725V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P3: 25x at 0.6V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P4: 21x at 0.4V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P5: 16x at 0.225V

      NorthBridge in NB_P0

  P6: 13x at 0.15V

      NorthBridge in NB_P1

  P7: 8x at 0.05V

      NorthBridge in NB_P1

  ---

  NB_P0: 11x at 0.325V

  NB_P1: 10x at 0.275V

  NB_P2: 10x at 0.275V

  NB_P3: 7x at 0.125V

It seems only settings of multipliers P0-2 are allowed :

AmdMsrTweaker.exe Turbo=1 APM=0 P2=36@1.16 P1=36@1.16 P0=36@1.16

for settings APM, Turbo which is best ?

I found a utility hwinfo64 that records min/max multipliers historically it would seem to enter multipliers above P2 which might be raised (without melting the cpu ?)

[benman2785]

well - in Windows you can set minCPU target to 100% in powerplan - so your CPU will always run with highest performance

and i do know this old tools - they are not working with modern APUs

[gfanini]

I verified there is an internal fan, the air exhaust is in the monitor/display hinge hidden from sight, is there any utility to control fan speed for avoiding possible cpu throttling, see my experiments with notebook fan control :

Please add the configuration for the laptop Lenovo G505s processor AMD A-10 is very warm.PS thanks i...

[benman2785]

nbfc is a VERY nice program for laptops

How to open, reassemble a laptop Lenovo G505 - YouTube

watch this - and if you think you can do it try it
1. clean fans
2. replace thermal compound against a good one (ArcticSilver-5; ThermalGritzzly etc)
3. maybe go for an SSD

[gfanini]

does anybody have any idea how to modify nbfc please

[benman2785]

notebookfancontroll?

pretty easy tool - self explaining

if you really need i could make a video

[jww1]

amd主板安装win10一定要记得手动安装amd的SATA控制器驱动【主板驱动吧】_百度贴吧 

1.3.1.277

[Matt_AMD]

There are no Windows 10 AMD Sata drivers and the drivers you are using are for Windows 7 only, that is why you are experienicng high latency.

We use the Microsoft in the box sata driver for Windows 10, you should be able to reinstall this using Windows Device Manager. 

[CoffeeBlack]

Microsoft is notorious for bad drivers, including bricking pc's when installing "Updated" drivers from Win Upd.  That said i'm using MS's driver for my old ga-990fxa-ud3 and ssd's only move data up to 300MB/s...classic move MS.  That's because the driver is poorly written (/shock), they downgrade your SATA3 controllers to SATA2 controllers.  FYI, when installing LINUX on this box, all drives show up as SATA3 and shockingly work at SATA3 speeds.  Was just trying to put this old system to work, but i run in to driver limitations on the Windows side for the disk controllers and ethernet limitations on the linux side.  So it'd be great if you'd go ahead and make a Win10 driver for SATA that works with the hardware basically as intended, or make a recommendation to MS to update their drivers as they aren't working properly.  I know you won't, but i still wanted to bump this old thread in case someone has come across a way to make SATA run as intended.  I did briefly go through the driver looking for a way to force it to SATA3, but i have pretty limited experience in that area and that may not be an option at all.

[eltaho]

Microsoft SATA driver was giving me some issue, so I changed it to AMD Sata Controller 2015 and now it's ok.

Issue was minor. I have 2 SSD from samsung 860 EVO 250GB and 870 QVO 1tb (new). For some reason Samsung Magician (prop tool from Samsung for their ssd's) doesn't recognize the drives. Also, when 1tb drive is connected and I try to load HWINFO64 it  get's stuck and becomes unresponsive during SATA/IDE scanning somewhere for 3-4 minutes. 

Therefore, I decided to change the driver from Standard MS Sata Controller to AMD Sata Controller. HWINFO now loads instantly but Samsung Magician still doesn't want to recognize the drive.