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Challenger

RX7900GRE ,older games, lower performance?

I just changed my RTX 3060 Ti card to RX 7900 GRE. I test the gaming performance of my games. In all new games the performance has increased by 80%, I am satisfied.
But I have a slightly older game called Dirt Rally. On RTX 3060Ti , I had an average of 121FPS in 1440p ultra details in the test. On RX7900GRE the performance is lower, only 80FPS. Is this normal or is there something wrong with it?

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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Qoojo
Miniboss

You did not mention your CPU. You could have a CPU bottleneck. Make sure you were limiting framerate with vsync or something else.

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Challenger

I have Intel i5 13600K on Z690 , DDR4 4000MHz .

I haven't limited frames, I have vsync off

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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Then that is strange unless that game has ray tracing

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Challenger

The game is from 2015, there is no ray tracing.

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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FunkZ
Grandmaster

Dirt Rally is nearly a 10 year old game. It uses EGO Engine 4.0 and DirectX 11. Modern cards and drivers are not necessarily the best at rendering these old graphics. Just look at how poorly Intel's ARK cards did with older titles when launched.

I keep an old AM3 platform around with Windows XP (air-gapped) for playing legacy games.

Ryzen R7 5700X | B550 Gaming X | 2x16GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 7900XT
Ryzen R7 5700G | B550 Gaming X | 2x8GB G.Skill 4000 | Radeon Vega 8 IGP
Ryzen R5 5600 | B550 Gaming Edge | 4x8GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 6800XT
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Challenger

But why do nvidia drivers support this old game and amd not ?
This game is branded by AMD.

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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Challenger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDDZMNvPu_M

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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Challenger

Maybe these low fps results only happen to me? Can someone check the benchmark in this game on RX7900?

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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You're in luck, I happen to have Dirt Rally in my Steam library.

At 1440p Ultra preset on my 7900XT with the built-in benchmark I get 184 FPS average, 128 FPS low, 320 FPS high.

Ryzen R7 5700X | B550 Gaming X | 2x16GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 7900XT
Ryzen R7 5700G | B550 Gaming X | 2x8GB G.Skill 4000 | Radeon Vega 8 IGP
Ryzen R5 5600 | B550 Gaming Edge | 4x8GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 6800XT
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Challenger

Thx bro for benchmark.

RX 7900 GRE is closer to RX 7800 XT than RX7900XT but I still think it should be around 140-160FPS on my GRE?
I recorded a video, the card load is 100%. I uninstalled the game and installed it again, but the result did not change and is still very low in my opinion.

 

https://youtu.be/wJ3iZgLkRBU

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.
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At the beginning of your video it shows Choose Preset is set to Custom. So you are not running Ultra preset, you have changed something.

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The results I posted were at the Ultra Preset.

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Ryzen R7 5700X | B550 Gaming X | 2x16GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 7900XT
Ryzen R7 5700G | B550 Gaming X | 2x8GB G.Skill 4000 | Radeon Vega 8 IGP
Ryzen R5 5600 | B550 Gaming Edge | 4x8GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 6800XT
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Challenger

In fact, I also have advanced blending enabled in the settings. This kills performance on Radeon!

Now I have 195 fps on average!

But it's still strange that after turning on this Advanced blending option on my RXT3060Ti I have much more FPS.

https://youtu.be/11ZNYEUDslw

 

 

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.

Aha! Good that you found the culprit.

Why does nVidia do a better job with that feature than AMD? (especially as you point out it is an AMD branded game) Probably because either the developer Codemasters optimized it for nVidia hardware or nVidia spent some time optimizing their drivers for that game.

Based on this Steam guide it seems hardware of that era was not even able to run it smoothly, as it was recommended to disable Advanced Blending on both AMD and nVidia cards at that time.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=442912192

Ryzen R7 5700X | B550 Gaming X | 2x16GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 7900XT
Ryzen R7 5700G | B550 Gaming X | 2x8GB G.Skill 4000 | Radeon Vega 8 IGP
Ryzen R5 5600 | B550 Gaming Edge | 4x8GB G.Skill 3600 | Radeon RX 6800XT
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Challenger

I will not enable this option, the performance is ok now, and there is not much difference in the appearance of the game.

ASRock RX7900GRE Steel Legend, i5 13600K, Asrock Z690 PG Riptide, 32gb ddr4 4000mhz.