Thanks for that info. I have heard that from others. Colesdav I know is one that said it works too. If you you only install the driver part through device manager.
This however is what really is irritating with AMD. They have to know beyond a shadow of a doubt it is what they do with their controlling interface and Wattman that is causing about 95% of the issues the last 3 years. Why it is so darn hard to fix is beyond me. Now maybe even before that, had I used catalyst on drivers to really tweak my settings, I would have possibly had issues, I don't know. I for years before getting my RX580 always use Trixx and before that Afterburner to OC and set a more aggressive fan curve. Back at that time I never even raised the power limit setting. From my HD 4xxx cards Through my HD 7xxx cards all were rock solid gamers with next to no issues other than needing updates occasionally to support a new game or version of DirectX.
Since my RX580 I have had nothing but a nightmare that only going green has alleviated. It is so painful for me to see all the poor people that come here trying to get their hard earned money they spent to game, to work for them in what is now 3 generations of cards, and likely will include and upcoming 4th if things don't change.
To me the current issues are a few key things.
1. The interface and new features don't work right. Even FreeSync an AMD 1st supported feature works better on green cards.
2. Because AMD was so much less power efficient than the green team when they have released their gpu's they are release with specs that under estimate what you really need in a power supply. On top of that they also only allow for a minimum power ceiling that only works with reference cards which for the most part doesn't even ever exist in the market place beyond the first few months of a new architectures release. This results in bios and drivers that won't give the cards what they need without the end user having to tweak even if they are not even overclocking, because their card is factory overclocked and AMD's settings have Zero headroom.
3. AMD by comparison to the green team apparently has pretty much zero oversight and validation with its board partners. This has lead to so many sub par card choices that frankly won't run right not for just the above reasons, but because they are not even good enough for a reference design. These cards not only typically have to have the above done, but in many case these cards have to be down clocked and/or under volt to even run. This is especially common with RX 590's especially.
4. New RDNA architecture. While I truly think the hardware is spectacular and will really be on par with the competition or should be with RDNA2 the drivers to support this architecture are by leaps and bounds just not working right with them by comparison with GCN. Most GCN issues are derived mostly from the architecture having been pushed way too far. RDNA however and it's changes in compute and how that translates to games just doesn't work right with the drivers or really bad when going pre DX11 if at all.
I get that AMD had to bring something better to market but they would IMHO been better to wait until they truly optimized the drivers.
Instead what we have is a years worth of okay sales for the GPU's, but so many customers that were very faithful to AMD now being more unhappy than they ever have been. I think it is harder to get a customer back that you have done wrong than it is to get someone to try your products for the first time.
Then you add to all this, the lack of leadership, acknowledgement and avenues for reporting and communication of all these problems that don't exist. Again these are in stark contrast to the green team. You can go to the forums of the green team and they are actually involved. Then you can go to their website and easily find support options to talk to them that aren't buried 3 levels deep. The they also have a live support agent via chat interface that in many cases can resolve you issues right now available most the time.
