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kidwaved
Journeyman III

Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

My current pc build - 

GPU - RX 5700 XT

CPU - Ryzen 7 2700

RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 8gbx2 3600 mhz

Cooler - Corsair H100i Liquid cooler & stock nzxt fan

Motherboard - MSI MPG X570 Gaming pro carbon wifi

PSU - Corsair RM750

I don't play many games as I'm quite boring so I stick to mostly Call of duty games. Here and then I will play some single player games however I've had enough with the crashes. Ever since I switched over to the RX 5700 XT from the gtx 1060 I've been having constant issues all the time. Don't get me wrong, performance wise this computer and this GPU is amazing, but it can't keep a game running for whatever reason. On cold war recently I've been getting constant crashes which is anoying as I keep losing progress as my game shuts down midgame, I'm sure you could understand my frustration. In order to fix the non-stop game crashes overtime I have kept upgrading my parts thinking it was that the GPU is too much for the rest of my PC to handle. But now I'm at a point where I have spent a lot on this computer and it's amazing, but I can't put my finger on why am I still getting crashes.. I hope someone can give me a permanent resolve to this.

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mackbolan777
Forerunner

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

I'm in the same club. I have a Gigabyte RX 5600 XT with a similar issue but I can play for about an hour. I did notice the 20.8.3 driver is most stable so far. Stupid question, but did you run DDU graphics uninstaller before installing this card and install the latest driver or the one you prefer?

You can find older AMD drivers on here by searching "AMD previous drivers". One other thing that can cause this is a faulty PSU or connecting the PCIE to a peripheral output off that model. I have the RM1000, older but specs are fine. The "RM" line had a high failure rate. HWINFO(free download) is a good tool to read voltages while stressing the GPU or anything else. Within +/- 5% of 5/3.3/12v under load is ok. 

 If this is like mine, mid-game, random, I'm still stuck. My last post was about using my DisplayPort for video and an HDMI for audio only as a possible cause. A few months back crashes were bad and it was due to improper DRAM timings, which I fixed and it helped. You could try moving the card down a slot to see if that changes anything. I think that board has 2 PCIE slots. 

Heat is another issue. I noticed if my VRAM hits 70c, I crash or green screen. So I use the "manual" OC mode and disable "zero RPM" for the fan and set a custom curve. I also undervolted the GPU to 960mv but the 5700 XT needs a bit more I think. Undervolting some can reduce temps quite a bit. There are guides on how to do it or select it in Adrenaline "manual" performance then input that value, it should work fine. It will only calculate and do one OC thing, like "undervolt GPU" , "overclock GPU", or "overclock VRAM". To get more than one setting, including fans, you need to run the card in "manual" performance mode and input increased or decreased values. Even stock clocks I would set zero RPM off and undervolt the GPU. The GPU gets way more juice than it needs causing extra heat with zero gain.

Some thoughts, hope one helps.

"It worked before you broke it!"
artur_aragao
Elite

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

Folks!

I discovered something interesting here and it doesn't really seem to be my VGA problem.

I uninstalled the drivers and the VGA works stably. Of course, I don't have the features of the standard driver, but this already seems to be a good indication that the cause of problems is the Adrenalin driver.

I ask you to do the tests with the generic Microsoft driver. So far without black screens.

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artur_aragao
Elite

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

I am amazed at what I discovered. I know that the friend had already recommended this to me, but now I'm on my way.

My setup is without black screens with version 20.8.3. Sinister!!!
Enter the system, rest in idle and return. Super stable.

Some nonsense AMD did with the drivers. It's fact!

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artur_aragao
Elite

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

Arrrrgggghhhhhhh !!!!

Same **bleep**!
I'm tired of it!
I will return this video card.

[ AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | Corsair Hydro H115i | MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI (MS-7C91) - 7C91v15 | 32GB DDR4 3600MHz ADATA | ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3070-8G-GAMING | XPG CORE REACTOR 850W | SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB ]
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mackbolan777
Forerunner

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

Get a better brand. MSI makes "pretty" things but their quality has been lack luster to say the least. Go with a Gigabyte, never had an issue with one except fan noise on one at 80% or more. XFX THIC III Ultra, great from what I hear. Asus makes a decent card too. Sapphire is over rated, Power Color, meh. But MSI lately is just awful. But you're plagued with an MSI board too.... running 32GB at 3600Mhz, try turning that down to 3200, especially if 4 sticks and see if it stops crashing. To run 4 sticks at more than 3200, you need a T topology board not that daisy-chain you have. Even 2 x16GB is tough on that type of board with a Ryzen. Think X570 chipset boards or expensive B550's for a T topology board. Or search "AM4 motherboards with T topology 2020", something should pop up. Anything made by ADATA is suspect. I've experienced intermittent performance issues with their SSD's, where I RMA'd 2 of them. I have older PC's with those sticks just intermittently mess up but pass testing. Sorry but I see some suspect things there, besides the card that would be intermittent. RAM brand, size, number of sticks, speed, board topology, brand model of board...

"It worked before you broke it!"
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delevero
Adept III

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

A guess try this

1). go into bios
2). select advanced mode ( F2 key )
3). find CPU Vcore Auto and change AUTO to 1,4volt
4). save and exit
5). try to play your games again.

The above made my own computer able to run games that i could not play yearsterday and i had 0 crashes the last 5-6 houres i play hitman 3 and another game.

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mackbolan777
Forerunner

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

Setting Vcore to a solid 1.4v is insane and the next crash you'll have is a black screen with a no boot because you fried the silicon. You have other issues. Unless you're trying to heat your room, proceed.

Vcore depending on CPU should fluctuate based on the CPU frequency. The only time that gets set to a fixed number is for an all core OC, which is not typically cool to do on a Ryzen CPU.

Better off setting your PBO enable, setting your voltages to "motherboard max" or "motherboard" instead of different Amp settings or "Auto". Setting the SOC to 1.10 on 3000 series Ryzen's seems to stabilize then running PBO, even PBO +200. Setting LLC to in the middle or 3 if you have that setting or "allow OC voltages" is ok as well.

All of that is assuming you have a decent cooling solution. AIO or closed loop preferred. RAM speed, IF and RAM sub-timings can improve results greatly as well. 

"It worked before you broke it!"
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artur_aragao
Elite

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

I've tried everything.
Nothing so far.

My source is yet to be delivered.
But I want to try something else, because I cannot accept that it is a problem from my source, just that it has worked with an RX480 for so long without any problems.

For a Ryzen 3000 what would be the best VCORE configurations. The others you mentioned only identified the SOC Voltage at 1,100v. The rest do not know where to find on the MSI mainboard that I have.

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artur_aragao
Elite

Re: Far too many crashes in almost every game I play.

And why not 4 modules? It's in the QVL of the mainboard.
It works steadily for days with an RX550 and an RX480.
Rams clock at 3600MHz for days. I put this **bleep** RX 5700XT and the plagues of crashes and WHEA errors infest my PC by turning it on and off.

I really appreciate the help.
I see that MSI's support has declined in quality, but the products never let me down.

I will try to play RAMs for less or even disable XMP.
For me, it is the source that cannot deliver power to the VGA. I'm surprised, but that's what it looks like. I'll only be sure tomorrow or Friday, when the new source will arrive.

[ AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | Corsair Hydro H115i | MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI (MS-7C91) - 7C91v15 | 32GB DDR4 3600MHz ADATA | ASUS ROG-STRIX-RTX3070-8G-GAMING | XPG CORE REACTOR 850W | SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB ]
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