PC Processors

[alingheaja]

Hello

Just finished building my new pc with 16 gb a-data ram (tested ok) Asus prime b350m-a (latest bios update), Asus rog strix rx 480 (tested ok). Ryzen 2700x(no oc, not my type) . Using windows 10 with latest updates and drivers.

With stock cooler I get 48-55 Temps in idle, if try to play nfs payback it hits 78-80! Under stress test it goes over 88. Ryzen master shows Temps lower with 10 degrees. I replaced the stock cooler with Leto pro black. Temps now are lower Under stres test it hits max 82/83 but I get reboot after 10-15 min. Even if I play fortnite for 5 minutes and the Temps don't go over 65-70 I still get forced reboot. No bsod . Nothing. I don't know what to do next... Also all Temps are with case open. I have 4 extra fans on my case. Any one please tell me what to do or what is the cause of this ?

[__gamehacker___]

The thermal junction point of Ryzen gen 1 is 70c if you hit that the system should force reboot to protect it's self.

If your seriously hitting those temps there could be a number of things wrong with your built.

You could have bad cable management resulting in bad airflow, you could be storing your pc in a bad location where it hasn't got alot of air room,

You could have WAY to much thermal paste on your cpu.

If your cpu is running at stock settings and the load line calibration setting is at default or low it shouldn't be overvolted which is what drastically raises the temps.

As I said earlier if you hit 70c the system should hang or reboot without a blue screen of death, and if your running stock settings those temps are WAY to high for stock settings so I am quite curious how your computer is built especially since your saying you play a game for 5 minutes.

My other guess is your cooler isn't clamped down correctly ether or you may not have removed a plastic sticker from the bottom of the cooler if their is one there.

Please let me know how you get on.

[misterj]

>>gamehacker<<<, I do not know what you are talking about but there is no fixed temperature for Ryzens that I know of.  See this:

The 2600X, for example is 95C.  alingheaja needs to run Ryzen Master (RM), post a screenshot and use only RM for measuring temperatures.  All other applications are suspicious.

alingheaja, please post a screenshot of Ryzen Master and post your specifications (all HW) including OS version and power supply.  We cannot believe any of the temperatures you posted because we do not know where they came from.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

[__gamehacker___]

Yeah Ryzen gen 1 is 70c (All R7's)

Seems gen 2 R7's are 85c on the 12nm node.

Ether way you shouldn't be anywhere near the max temps with the stock settings and cooler.

[misterj]

>>gamehacker<<<, not true!

All Threadripper processors are 68C.  Users need to look at the specifications for their processor!  Enjoy, John.

[alingheaja]

All the cables are under the motherboard, back pannel. Thermal paste ... Well I usually put a drop on the middle. Should I try other ways to apply?

[alingheaja]

i had one ram removed only 8. i tested them last night and they are ok.

PSU is a "900w keep out" or what ever brand it is. i had no problems with it.

the forced reboots i get only happen since i replaced the stock cooler. lower temps but reboot.

second print screen is after stress testing the cpu for a couple of minutes. and first one is first start after one day (cold boot).

[misterj]

alingheaja, this all looks good.  What is the highest temperature you have seen on Ryzen Master (RM)?  Temperatures look fine.  60C is fine with a 25C headroom.  If this is the highest, your reboots are not due to temperature - even 70C is OK.  Please look in C:\Windows.minidump and if there are any files in the folder, please compress it and upload so we can take a look.  In the future when posting screenshots of RM, please do not cover parts of it with other images.  900 Watts should be fine for power.  Hopefully you have some minidump files to consider.  Have your reboots come with one or two memory sticks?  What slots are they in?  Thanks and enjoy, John.

[alingheaja]

On ryzen master 70 max under stress test.. No minidump on windows folder. I get reboots no matter if I have 1 or 2 sticks. I'm using A2 and B2 as the motherboard manual shows.

[el_arantis]

Dear alingheaja,

I suggest you to change your psu with a reliable one from a well known brand.

Believe me many problems can start from an unreliable psu.

Your psu costs in my country 60 euros and it is 900W.

I changed my old Cooler Master 600W Bronze 80+ (it cost me 90 euros before 8 years)

with a Seasonic 1000W Focus Gold 80+ and cost me on Black Friday sales 150 euros (10 years warranty like giving 15euros/year lol).

Do not wrongly think that with this price difference someone just pays the brand sticker.

You have already paid a lot for cpu, ram, gpu etc, invest on a good psu because even if your current problem is not solved, you will be sure that no other problem can be caused from it. You must know that bad psus can cause fatal damages to a system.

Wish you Happy New Year 2019!!

[alingheaja]

My psu fan was stuck for some reason. I cleaned it up and got it working fine. No more reboots. Also I did change the thermal paste and tighten the cpu heatsink.. On idle I have 38/55 degrees. În games its very strange. When a game starts loading temperature jumps to 70/75 then I hear the fans start spinning and it gets cooled down. During gameplay it sits between 55/68. Should I be worried about the Temps that jump so fast in just one second? I never had this kind of cpu. I did read some blogs that 2700x is a little hot and it's normal cause that the way it operates.

(also all temps are the ones higher detected with hwinfo, on ryzen master they are lower by 10 degrees .)

[misterj · Accepted solution]

alingheaja, never believe the temperatures reported by anyone except Ryzen Master! If you want to eliminate the fan lag, plug them directly into 12 Volts with an adapter.  I run all my CPU fans and pump on 12 Volts - always run at full speed.  Temperatures do seem to change quickly in Ryzen - lots of users report.  Enjoy, John.

[alingheaja]

thank you. i will do that !

[alingheaja]

should i monitor TCTL that shows temp higher by 10 degrees or  TDIE that is identical to ryzen master ?