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geogh002
Adept II

Ryzen 5 7600x high temperature even when booting

Hello everyone,

I was wondering what I could do for the CPU not to randomly boost like that on any task I do.

It does not bother me that it can reach 90 degrees because I knew from the beginning it works at 95 for the best performance, but I hate when the fans just start going crazy after a simple task such as launching Discord, turning on and even off the PC..

In games it does not go over 60 degrees. I got the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 as cooler which I believe is more than enough for this CPU. 

I specify that I won't just make a custom profile for the fans to limit them so I cannot hear them anymore because at the same time I don't want the CPU to randomly heat too much.

I want to know if there is any setting for the CPU that can limit it on these basic tasks maybe?

This is my setup:

CPU: Ryzen 5 7600x
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M D3HP AX
Cooler: ARCTIC AC Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB White
RAM: Lexar ARES RGB White 32GB DDR5 6400MHz CL32 Dual Channel Kit
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x 850W 80+
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (this is my old GPU from the previous setup, this month I will upgrade to the 7800 XT)
Case: PcCOOLER C3 T500 ARGB WH Middle Tower

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misterj
Big Boss

geogh002, why do you want to limit the performance rather than fix the noise problem? How do you measure the temperature during booting? You can edit the power settings to reduce the performance of your system. Open Setting>Power and make adjustments. John.

 

 

 

 

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I am using Open Hardware Monitor and I can see the max temperature it reached. When I boot into desktop is over 80 degrees. 

About the performance limit, what I meant is that I think there is something that forces the CPU to it limits for something basic which does not require that much boost.

For example I am launching a game and it goes to 90 degrees, but while playing the game, it does not heat over 60. 

As I said, fixing the noise issue would be a custom profile that does not allow the fans to spin at their maximum RPM for a specific temperature. So, if the CPU is going to 90 for no reason, the fans will spin anyway at the maximum speed. I can't set them to start spinning over 100... that would probably crash the system. 

This is what I understand, if you have any idea let me know. Maybe I misunderstood something.

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Thanks, geogh002. I never heard of Open Hardware Monitor. Please uninstall it and install Ryzen Master (RM). I have always been concerned how third party monitors find their temperatures. I suspect they do not ignore very short time runs to higher temperatures. Ryzen  aggressively runs tasks given to it by the OS. When Windows says runs a task, the clocks go up and so does the temperature. I think you can adjust your fan curves or ask Ryzen not to run so fast. Perhaps other brands do not do this. Searching the Internet you can find silicon diodes specified at 200C junction temperature. I found an example of an ASIC running at 400C, so 90C is not a problem.

You may have a problem with your cooling system. Please make sure it is mounted properly and tight. Did you remove the plastic guard on the heat sink? Did you use thermal compound? I run my pump at full speed all the time. You might try this. Post a screenshot of RM while running Cinebench R24 multicore. John.

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Don't think anything wrong with the cooling system. I removed the plastic guard, the paste is applied correct. As I said, in games such as Forza Horizon 5, Uncharted 4, it won't get over 60. 

I am really happy with the result, I also thing this cooling system is overkill for this specific processor. 

I ran Cinebench 2024 now after the PBO settings and I got 833 points in the Multicore Test. Stock was around 880 I remember? My bad I did not note that.

I will attach 2 screenshots with the temperature and all that I get. Before/After

Before: https://prnt.sc/SIQj6lCOISCj
After: https://prnt.sc/-9WmyFQ6m3lJ

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You can try to adjust some BIOS Settings that affects your CPU such as from your BIOS Setup Manual at Gigabyte Support: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650M-D3HP-AX-rev-10/support#support-manual

 

BIOS SETTINGS from your Motherboard BIOS:

 

& Precision Boost Overdrive(PBO) Enhancement
Offers five boost levels for three targeted 90/80/70 °C CPU temperature. One can choose the most suitable
thermal limit/boost level combinations to reach higher CPU frequency. Note: Workable settings/results may
vary by different CPUs' condition

 

& Core Performance Boost
Allows you to determine whether to enable the Core Performance Boost (CPB) technology, a CPU
performance-boost technology.

 

Precision Boost Overdrive
Allows you to determine whether to automatically increase CPU clock and working performance.

 

Found this Tech article about Gigabyte 600 series Motherboards and 7000 series processors running hot (This article might be out-dated since it was written in 2022) https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AMD-Ryzen-7950X-Impact-of-Precision-Boost-Overdrive-P (TBO-on-Thermals-and-Content-Creation-Performance-2373/

Introduction

With the recently launched AMD Ryzen 7000 Series desktop processors, we saw some terrific performance gains in our Content Creation Review article, but like many other reviewers, we found that these CPUs run extremely hot. Seeing CPU temperatures of 95º Celsius was fairly common, and we were lulled into the mindset that this was normal since it matched what everyone else was seeing and that even AMD was telling people that 95C was "normal".

It turns out, however, that these high temperatures are not at all what we should be seeing with these new CPUs.

The issue is that the motherboard we used (the Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER) was defaulting to overclocking the CPU beyond AMD's official specifications. From what we have seen, this isn't restricted to Gigabyte motherboards, but something that almost every brand seems to be doing. This also isn't something entirely new, or restricted to AMD. On the Intel side, we have dealt with a setting called "MultiCore Enhancement" for years, which allows the CPU to run all the cores at the maximum boost frequency when they should be scaling based on the number of cores that are being used.

In the case of our X670E motherboard, it is two specific settings that we found to be causing the CPUs to run at dramatically higher temperatures:

  1. Core Performance Boost (CPB) allows the processor to run faster than its rated frequency when below power, temperature, and current specifications.
  2. Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) allows the processor to run beyond the defined voltage values to the limits of the board, and allows it to boost at higher voltages for longer durations than default.

These two settings are similar, and in many ways two sides of the same overclocking coin. CPB allows the CPU to run faster as long as there is thermal and power headroom, while PBO pushes the voltages to allow the CPU to clock higher.

We will note that the Ryzen Master software you can use with the Ryzen 7000 series has some additional ways you can affect things like power draw and temperature – including  "Eco Mode" – but we always prefer to do our configurations directly in the BIOS. Especially since many settings are not saved across user profiles, or after we sysprep Windows to prepare it for the end user, we try to avoid software-based settings as much as possible.

Is Precision Boost Overdrive and Core Performance Boost Worth it for Content Creation?

In most of the workloads we tested, it is very clear that using Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) and Core Performance Boost (CPB) is not worth it. Photoshop, Lightroom Classic, Premiere Pro, After Effects, and DaVinci Resolve all showed no difference in performance when we disabled these settings from their "Auto" default, yet the CPU temperature dropped as much as 30C, or even 40C!

It was only the extremely heavy workloads where the CPU is loaded to 100% for sustained periods of time that PBO/CPB gave any amount of performance increase. Even then, however, the performance gain was only about 10% at most, and in exchange, the CPU was often pegged at 95C, versus just 65C with PBO/CPB off. Running the CPU for sustained loads at 95C doesn't seem like a terribly great return for a meager 10% performance boost in our opinion.

What this means is that, going forward, we will be doing the majority of our AMD Ryzen 7000 testing with PBO and CPB disabled. As a workstation manufacturer, reliability is extremely important, and the vastly higher CPU temperatures are simply not worth it for the small performance gains in a limited number of workflows. By no means does this mean we think everyone should turn off these overclocking settings, simply that they don't align with our testing goals, which is to test hardware with an eye towards how they will perform in a workstation setting.

One last thing we want to clarify is that this kind of auto-overclocking is not exclusive to AMD platforms. We deal with it on Intel platforms as well, in the form of MultiCore Enhancement (MCE) and unlocked short/long power limits. We are currently disabling MCE and setting the power limits on all our Intel Core 12th Gen systems and testing, and plan on doing a similar article to this one when the 13th Gen CPUs launch later this month.

 

PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive) is AMD way of safely overclocking your processor.  PBO will allow your processor to run at its maximum safe speed thus increasing its performance but also increasing the amount of heat it generates. 

 

You can temporarily disable PBO in BIOS and see if your CPU runs cooler and less fan noise is generated or you can experiment with PBO Enhancement settings (Not familiar with this PBO setting).

 

Can also try to disable Core Precision Boost to see if the CPU run cooler without to much hit on its performance.  If performance is affected to much then enable it back on and see if your can change some of its settings.

 

NOTE: As mentioned in the above article you can run Ryzen Master and set your processor on "ECO MODE" it will run cooler but with less performance. But most likely you would have to start Ryzen Master on each reboot on your PC.

 

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FunkZ
Grandmaster

Watch this video on how to adjust PBO settings to reduce voltage and temperature on your 7000 series processor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOYYHNGlLs

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So, I did this yesterday. I am currently at PBO -30, Temp Limit 85, Watt Limit 85, but is still the same. I also still need to play more with the settings but did not really have the time.

Even if this still not fixing the fan issue, this one solutions is still a must to do on these CPUs.