PC Processors

[PaqBel]

The compatibility test for upgrade to Windows 11 results in:

"Your processor AMD Ryzen 7 2700U is not compatible with Windows 11"

Which will be the solution to this issue?

Best regards

[vialli100 · Accepted solution]

It is a Zen core, so not compatible with Win 11.

You will have to upgrade, but that CPU is not upgradable as far as i know..

[elstaci · Accepted solution]

Your Laptop APU Processor is soldered to the laptop motherboard. It will cost more to replace than the laptop is worth.

So I would keep the laptop until Windows 10 isn't officially supported by Microsoft which will be a few years in the future or your laptop goes bad or switch to a different OS like Linux.

[qhaas · Accepted solution]

The desktop version of the Ryzen 7 Pro 2700u, the 2700 (including E and X variants), is supported by Windows 11.   It is a newer CPU, released in Q1 2019  and supports TPM 2.0.  Why would the desktop version be supported but the mobile version not?

[vialli100 · Accepted solution]

It is a Zen core, so not compatible with Win 11.

You will have to upgrade, but that CPU is not upgradable as far as i know..

[qhaas · Accepted solution]

The desktop version of the Ryzen 7 Pro 2700u, the 2700 (including E and X variants), is supported by Windows 11.   It is a newer CPU, released in Q1 2019  and supports TPM 2.0.  Why would the desktop version be supported but the mobile version not?

[elstaci · Accepted solution]

The Desktop Ryzen 7 Pro 2700(X)(E) are both ZEN+ processors while your mobile Ryzen 7 Pro 2700U is a ZEN processors.

APUs are generally one generation behind regular Desktop Processors.

That is why your processor is not supported by Windows 11 while the other 2 Desktop processor are.

[DRDOS]

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@elstaci wrote:

APUs are generally one generation behind regular Desktop Processors.

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Reading this statement i got a question (though, it is maybe a step away from the main subject of this thread) if it's also applicable to a 5000 series APU's, or if those APU's have at least some functional downgrades/disadvantages towards regular desktop CPU's of the same series that probably could result in a same situation with further OS's, where desktop CPU's will be still compatible with those OS's, but APU's - already not?

[elstaci]

@DRDOS 

Seems like the 5000 series APUs are the same Zen generation as the regular 5000 series processors.

All use Zen 3 architecture except the 5000 series APUs doesn't support PCIe 4.0 like the regular 5000 series CPUs.

Possibly the 4000 series APUs are the same also.

But generally in the past AMD APUs tended to be one generation behind. But I guess not anymore.

You can look at some of the 2000 and 3000 series APUs and you will see that they are not the same Zen architecture as the normal CPUs.

That is why the 2000 series APUs are not supported by Windows 11 because instead of being Zen+ they are just Zen processors.

[PaqBel]

Understood, thank you for your answer. Best regards.

[qhaas]

If the primary reason for Windows 11 not supporting CPUs is TPM 2.0 support, some 1st gen (not just 1st gen+) Ryzen pros do support TPM 2.0, at least my Ryzen 2700u Pro based HP Elitebook 745 G5 is advertised as supporting it.

"TPM 2.0 embedded security chip"

[goodplay]

No, it is not just TPM.

MS has set minimum CPU ISA/Extension sets and minimum hardware/firmware security protocols as eligible for Win.11.

Fun fact, only Zen3 & 11th gen. meet additional higher elevation OS requirements.

There is a several hundred pages MS doc. if you want to find/read it. 

[Rocketwaveuk]

see attached picture of my windows 11 health check , it makes me sick to think that windows 11 is making my 2 year old laptop costing £750  fit in their minds for the scrap bin. 

[elstaci]

@Rocketwaveuk 

Yes you have a ZEN or ZEN1 AMD Processor which are not supported in Windows 11.

You can probably still install Windows 11 but Microsoft has said it won't be supported with Windows Updates.

Plus there won't be any AMD drivers for your APU processor for Windows 11 since it isn't supported by Microsoft and Windows. So if Windows 10 AMD Graphics drivers doesn't work in your Windows 11 OS you are out of luck.

NOTE: Windows 10 will still be supported up to 2025 from what I have read. So your laptop will be, at least, 5 year old by then unless Microsoft extends the Support period like they did with Windows 7.

[elstaci · Accepted solution]

Your Laptop APU Processor is soldered to the laptop motherboard. It will cost more to replace than the laptop is worth.

So I would keep the laptop until Windows 10 isn't officially supported by Microsoft which will be a few years in the future or your laptop goes bad or switch to a different OS like Linux.

[Poddaty]

Вопрос про amd razen 3 1200 будет ли поддержка windows 11 в данный момент поддержки нет!

[elstaci]

@Poddaty 

No, Microsoft has ruled out all Zen processors that includes the 1000 series processor, except for one or maybe two exceptions.

[Poddaty]

Тогда какой лучше взять камень бюджетный amd с поддержкой win11

[elstaci]

Depends on your Motherboard CPU SUPPORT LIST and how much you want to spend.

[pdizazzo]

You can use this workaround....

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77...

[PaqBel]

Thanks my friend, it is a good notice.

BEst regards.

[PaqBel]

Hi Friends:

Finally I upgraded succesfully, I preparaed a USB for install Windows 11 in Rufus 3.16 with the option "Extended Windows 11 installation  (no TPM/no Secure Boot/8GB - RAM)"

I deactivated the Secure boot and started a fresh installation using th USB.

The installation was performed and then I resinstalled my aplications. Untill now everything is ok.

The updates had been performed correctly, even today.

This is the notice for today

And this is the result

Thank you for your support.

Best regards

[DRDOS]

Yes, it is still possible to install Windows 11 if hardware is not officially supported. But question is - will it then be working completely properly and receive all the updates same way as if it was installed in a regular way with officially supported hardware?

[pjdebruin64]

I installed Windows 11 on my Lenovo Yoga 530 with  AMD Ryzen 2700U laptop edition, and IT IS RUNNING GREAT.

No glitches at all after more than a month, receiving updates, and it is fast and snappy, better than Windows 10.