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[cpurpe91]

Earlier I complained about the price above MSRP at Best Buy before the launch, but looking around on the internet there are still quite a few models still in stock at or near MSRP on other retailer sites. Many Microcenters still have them at decent prices as well. Scalpers are scalping. This is to be expected, but there is still stock on many retailer sites. This leads me to believe that this launch is going well, in terms of availability. 

On the performance side of things, I feel good about the where the RX 9000 series fit in on the charts. Of course, it isn't an RTX 4090. It's comparable to the RX 7900 class cards. For the price this is actually very good. Had I not gotten a RX 7900 XTX in November, I would be looking into buying the RX 9070 XT as an upgrade over my RX 7900 XT. 

I feel good about this launch.

Here's hoping AMD can grab onto some more of the GPU market, since this was the goal of targeting the mid-range. 

How do you all feel about this launch?

[ajlueke]

I mean, at $599 it is a pretty good card.  It performs reasonably close to the RTX 5070Ti to make that $750 feel a bit excessive.  It is also close enough to the $999 cards like the 7900 XTX and RTX 5080 that they don't really feel worth the extra cost unless you are really into ray tracing.  The RX 9070 seems to be in a weird spot, because it is close to the 9070XT in terms of price that there doesn't see to be a reason to buy it. 

Higher end editions of the RX 9070 can cost over $599, but are still slower than the base model RX 9070XT.  They were available for most of the day at my local Microcenter. 

[cpurpe91]

If the past is any indication, the Radeon RX 9070 will drop in price relatively soon after launch, similar to the Radeon RX 7900 XT. This is only if it mirrors that launch. 

[johnnyenglish]

Absolutely, I mean, NVIDIA wont drop the 5070ti, 5080 and 5090 prices but its gonna drop a little bit on the 5070 just to get market share and then 9070 goes down as well.

And that is kind of good for gamers, a 9070 for about 550ish would be an awesome upgrade for those still hanging onto RDNA1&2 plus RTX2000&3000 series.

And a super affordable 9060 would be the world for those with Polaris and 1060 out there. Day and Night upgrade.

[cpurpe91]

I don't disagree. This could be really good for gamers. I know several people who are still using the GTX 10 series in their rigs as daily drivers. Many of them are on GTX 1060 6GB cards.

[mjevans]

Horrid stock.  It was all gone by the time I woke up and checked pages.  There are no suitable retail stores in the Seattle area to go in person and pick one up at either.

Trying to build my new PC finally... unable to get a GPU _again_

For the second product launch in a row, the Scalpers and Bots have consumed the supply of any GPUs worthy of a build that will last me another 5-10 years. I am in _dire_ need of building a new PC, including GPU, to replace my aging and possibly near failure R9 285 2GB.

I want to buy an RX 9700 XT at something near MSRP of 600 USD. Also a 9800X3D. I hope the Asus ProArt x870e has working ECC functionality, I hate data loss. That's the sort of bundle I'd be willing to purchase too.

Why isn't there a lottery I can sign up for to be able to purchase a shiny new GPU from a retailer of my choice? (with a validation code) Why do the early AM bots and scalpers always win. This sucks. 😞

[cpurpe91]

I just checked. You're right. Newegg, Amazon and Best Buy are out of stock. The only place I can find to get them is Microcenter. I hope you find something, friend. Maybe you have family or someone you trust, not some random on the internet lol, that lives near a Microcenter and can send money to buy and ship one to you? Good luck.

[FunkZ]

After my R9 290X died from a water cooling leak, I went for almost a year during 2021-2022 running off my old HD 5870 until I managed to score a 6700XT for $500 in Feb 2022. And that was the first card I could get.

If you need a card rn there's 7800XT's available, if you're willing to wait a bit I'm sure the 9070's will come back in stock. It might be days or weeks but I bet you it will not be months like we had to endure previously.

[ajlueke]

The scalpers win because people are willing to pay scalped prices for cards.  If they weren't, scalpers wouldn't do it.   Also why Nvidia and AMD keep raising prices.  "If people will pay $1500 for a scalped card we may as well pocket that money ourselves".

[Qoojo]

Personally, owning a 7900 xtx, the new gen is of no interest for me including nvidia. The 9070 xt definitely seems competitive with 5070 ti at a lower price. The 5080 seems kind of worthless considering actual price you can buy it for.

If i had to buy a GPU, it's between the 9070 xt and 5070 ti. If possible, I think i wait 6 months to see what happens with prices.

[cpurpe91]

I'm sticking with my 7900 XTX, since I have one already and another one as a backup. I just like to see progress being made that is relatively affordable compared to the competition. I can't wait to see what Intel does with the rest of the Battlemage chips, provided they continue with that series.

[Qoojo]

It would be awesome if intel can get their GPUs competitive with lower prices to check NVidia and somewhat AMD.

[RedRaven]

Intel will remain irrelevant as usual in the GPU sector (currently holding 0% of the market), it has no hope, especially in about a month when both AMD and NVIDIA will release their entry-level GPUs. The competition is and will remain only between these two.

[mengelag]

I think AMD did what they needed to do. They made a high mid-tier card that competes with Nvidia at a better price-to-performance ratio. I think it's an easy AMD win here.

[BigAl01]

Well, on launch day I didn't see any 9070 GPUs available at Amazon, Newegg or Microcenter (online).  I don't need one right now, so I wasn't going over to our Fairfax VA Microcenter to wait in line for one.  If you can't even order one on launch day, I think there is something wrong with availability.  We'll see how this plays out over the next few months.

I checked Amazon this morning (launch day +1) and found a Gigabyte 9070 XT OC for $999; the 9070 OC is just $799.  That's no deal.

[eebiii]

For me it was the exact opposite. Everyone got a card yesterday at my local Microcenter. As far as online is concerned, until everyone gets serious about bots, this will never end. It's a stupid game that could have been solved 6 or 7 years ago. But all these companies make money off the scamming. If they didn't want this to happen, it wouldn't. Just go on eBay, Facebook marketplace, or craigslist. Every card you want is available for double the price. It's an absolute joke! And unfair to the consumer!

[Bmacek01]

My local Micro Center still had a line out the door at 2:30 pm and all MSRP cards were sold out by 3.  The premium cards were gone by 6.  I imagine AMD is happy.  I'm worried that we won't see MSRP again anytime soon though.  I guess we proved the $550 or DOA crowd wrong.  I don't need a card badly enough to take a day off of work and stand in line, so we'll see what the restock looks like.

[ajlueke]

Everything is sold out today.  We'll see what the prices look like when stock refreshes and if there is a price hike.  If the MSRPs go up, I don't feel the card will be nearly the win it was at $599.  It will also lead to the question of whether the $599 was a bait and switch to net positive day 1 reviews and never the "actual MSRP" of the card 

[eebiii]

I heard in line yesterday that AMD made everyone selling cards on day 1 keep MSRP pricing. Because cards were sent out before tariffs hit. That was at least the non-OC cards. I knew I was going to pay a little more for an OC card.

[eebiii]

Everything gone in Denver Microcenter today too. But they are not open yet, I don't think. There are 2 gigabyte cards available on amazon but its double the price $999 right now. The rest are sold out.

[eebiii]

Only 3 cards left since i posted 13 mins ago and there were 8

Amazon.com: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16G Graphics Card, PCIe 5.0, 16GB GDDR6, GV-R9070XT...

[eebiii]

These are in stock too. XT's are gone. 15mins. crazy!

Amazon.com: GIGABYTE Radeon RX 9070 Gaming OC 16G Graphics Card, PCIe 5.0, 16GB GDDR6, GV-R9070GAMIN...

[Nagrenol]

Unsurprising launch tbh.. it seems to be the trend now for GPU launches since 2019/2020 with the amd 6000 & nvida 3000 series

• Stock:
  • Both sides: Lacking
• Price: 
  • Nivida, always more costly with the **90 card being insane
    • Scalpers swoop in and resell them at even worse prices
  • AMD
    • On the big screens the price looks great, then trying to get one at not double that on launch.. good luck

The SOP ios pretty much.. release a low amount of stock to make sure they sell. If they sell fast.. restock the cards (you had in stock waiting) but at higher prices. 

AMD can put that card will be 200 on their presentation screens and people will clap like seals.. knowing full well almost no one will likely get a card even close to that price once they hit the market. 

Let's be honest, as a company AMD etc don't really care how much the cards will actually cost once they get their share.

[eebiii]

There is XT stock back in the Denver microcenter as of right now. Alot of cards. So, check your local store. I haven't checked online 

Radeon RX 9070 XT : Micro Center

[BigAl01]

I see 26 of them in stock at the Fairfax VA MicroCenter.  Nothing can be ordered, you just need to run down and get in line I suppose.

[cpurpe91]

My Microcenter and the one second nearest to me both seem to be out of stock completely. Best Buy is also out of stock. Newegg is also all out of the 9070 and 9070XT. 

[VeryPissedOffAMDCustomer]

I’m really frustrated with the launch of the new GPU series. I’ve been a fan of AMD for a while, but the whole process around this launch has been pretty disappointing.

When the launch was first announced, AMD made it clear that the GPUs would be available at MSRP, and I was excited to finally pick one up at that price. However, the reality has been far from what was promised:

1. Stock Shortages: Retailers like Best Buy, Newegg, and Amazon had almost no MSRP stock available at launch, and the cards that did appear sold out in seconds. It felt like there was barely any inventory for regular consumers to buy at MSRP online. Most of us are not close to or unable to be physically present at a Micro Center at 8 AM in the middle of the week. 

2. Poor Value Offerings by AIB Partners: Many AIB partners GPU's were available on launch day, but for prices way above MSRP. There’s no sign that this is being addressed. It’s frustrating to see the inflated prices continuing when we were promised the GPUs would be available at a fair price. Overpriced 5070 TI's are available at $900, why would I buy a 9070 XT at $850? We were promised affordable GPU's with an MSRP of $599.99 and they were not available in the quantities suggested by AMD anywhere online. 

3. Scalping: On top of that, the scalping problem is out of control. Bots and resellers snapped up the limited MSRP stock within seconds, and now we’re seeing these GPUs being resold for double or even triple the price. It's a huge letdown and makes it almost impossible for normal buyers to get the card at the price you promised. As I type this, Facebook marketplace now shows more 9070 XT in stock within a 5 mile radius of me, than any of your retail or online partners did on launch day. All at the low low price of $1000+ per card.

4. Lack of Communication: There’s been no clear communication about when more stock will be available at MSRP, and no updates about how you’re handling the scalping issue. It just feels like we’re being left in the dark here.

As a loyal customer, I really expected more from AMD, especially since they had been promising MSRP availability. I get that demand is high, but the current situation isn’t fair to everyday consumers, and it’s frustrating to see scalpers benefiting while most of us are left out.

I really hope AMD takes this seriously and works to fix these issues. It’d be great to hear what steps are being taken to make sure these GPUs are actually available at MSRP and to combat the scalping problem.

Thanks for your time, and I hope to see some action on this soon.

[Qoojo]

It's crazy how these guys label it OC, and it has 1-4 more fps, then charge 100s more for retail. About 8-10 years ago, I stopped caring about OC because the gains were not worth the hassle, heat, and power.

Just pretend release does not happen for 6 months. This will kill scalpers and lower your frustration.

[ed6698]

Hopefully this does not see the day of light.

https://videocardz.com/newz/retailer-confirms-radeon-rx-9070-msrp-only-applies-to-first-shipments-pr... 

[eebiii]

To me, No matter how many cards they put out in the market it will be impossible to keep up with all the bots and resellers. Coronavirus turned everyone into pawnbrokers with no math skills. Easy way for them is to just double and triple prices. No thought behind it at all. Take a look at eBay right now. It's sickening. Most of the pictures are the cards sitting on their front car seats when these people picked the cards up locally at Microcenter. I can't blame AMD for this. This is all on 3rd party manufacturers and sellers allowing this s### to continue happening in 2025.

[cpurpe91]

I can't disagree with that.

[mjevans]

I can blame it on AMD a little though.

They need to do more to connect with real buyers and help the retailers and e-tailers route around the scalpers.  It'd help them with logistics too.

Let the customers know the prices far enough in advance that they can tell AMD "I'd really like one of (checkbox list) these cards", maybe they're like me and even want SOME items from a bundle.  Like the obvious gaming PC CPU the 9800X3D.  Though looking for the cards on so many sites, none of them offer the models of system boards I want, let alone (very specific to my vow to always buy ECC RAM and systems if I can help it) RAM I want.

Then AMD could do a drawing from among the buyers, get the products shipped to associates near them, and allow them to purchase in person with ID required.

If AMD's doing _all_ of that, I wouldn't even be mad about a smaller fraction (maybe 20 to 35%?) of the units being auctioned by AMD directly.  I can't afford that, but that might help fund better driver and library development for using the cards.

[2Ponies1Apple]

Really not interested in AMD's midrange line and no fsr4 on my 7900xtx is a bummer so I've started saving for a high end gpu, they have until Q3 or it's 5090 for me. 

[BigAl01]

You better save up at least $2000 USD for one of those 5090's.  When you think about it, a totally high-end gaming computer (OLED display, gaming keyboard / mouse, computer desk, UPS, GPU, CPU, 64 GB DDR5 RAM, 4 T-B M.2 Gen 5 SSDs, motherboard, case, 1200 Watt PSU, AIO CPU cooler, and fans) can cost you over $4000 USD easy.  

[2Ponies1Apple]

I already have a 7800x3d and a 7900xtx, I don't like turning down settings or stressing my equipment out since I live in a tropical climate so I like to be a bit extra on the capabilitly side, that said 2k in my currency is about 3-4 months savings and I'd like to continue to support AMD, My first gpu was a 7750 followed by a 7850 then 5700xt and finally a 7900xtx. I don't need absolute top end but I'd like between 5090 and 7900xtx performance. Im in that 10% and if nothing amd should consider a gpu in that bracket as a good faith showing for high end enthusiasts. Just my 2c

[eebiii]

$2700-3000

[RedRaven]

Regarding the launch of the RX9000 series, I believe it was an excellent launch and the performance is there. I would say it's not correct to compare it to the 7900XT. The 9070XT competes with the 7900XTX and surpasses it in ray tracing. So it's much faster than the 7900XT.  Or, if we want to compare it with its rivals, it is only 10 to 20% slower than a 5080, for now, because take a look at how 9070XT performs in the recent Monster Hunter Wilds and it's amazing in terms of speed!

So I would say it is excellent, considering the price, to say the least.

Also FSR4 is very good.

The problems in purchasing the cards, in AMD's case, as shown by the numbers in retailers' warehouses, are due exclusively to the huge demand, not so much to a lack of cards produced and released to the market. This, unfortunately, is inevitable, and let's not forget that scalpers are always at work. AMD did well to reassure that they will maintain the MSRP so that everyone who wants to buy these cards will be able to do so, even if it takes a little time.

[zll]

AIB only offers products at the MSRP specification and sells them at a price of $700. For example, sapphire NITRO is an msrp similar to MSI ventus.  But aib sells it as its flagship GPU.
AIB wants to make more money. OK  It's a business.  But where can I buy non-MSRP products? Except for Gigabyte.   Too many fake flagship Gpus .  In addition to Gigabyte, where can buy a flagship GPU for $700? I don't want to spend $600 on a fake flagship GPU. Would you be happy if these products were discounted to $500 on Black Friday?

[2Ponies1Apple]

They might not see such a huge drop for black Friday but this is also not a flagship. This is a midrange card and we need atleast a entry level and enthusiast card from amd

[zll]

A midrange card for $600 to $700，AIB advertises it as the flagship GPU. For the same price, Gigabyte's RX9000 are more advanced. Most AIBs are too brazen.