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Volkdude85
Challenger

Aftermarket CPU cooling

There seem to be a few methods of cooling that are popular.  Air/ AIO(all in one) water/ or custom water soft tube/ or hard tube.

I have run my fair share of flair copper, and SS tube, pipe in industrial.  My introduction to cooling a pc with water was a 120 deep rad corsair AIO on a fx 8150 (2012) it worked for 8 years, in hind site I should have bought a 240 rad for my case.  
However ripping that thing out and not being able to use the pc was frustrating.  I went to BestBuy and threw a Cooler Master cheapo tower on it and although it was loud it did just as well thermally.  New fans are cheap and easy.  No matter what fans are a factor.  Pump failure sucks.  I like air.

Is there any 10 year plus pumps out there?

how about 10 year heat pipes?

My big zalman still works circa 2007!

just curious

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Sam_AMD
Community Manager

Hi  @Volkdude85 

I wish I could help you but I haven't used any pumps or heat pipes. 

Maybe our friends @red5 , @Weber462 , @cpurpe91@mengelag  know?

Sam
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You should they work for over 8 years....;-)>

No prism on the 5800X3D?

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red5
Miniboss

I don't think any components are rated by how many years they'll last. It's always MTBF (mean time between failures.)  That and a company's reputation are how I'd judge a products' potential lifespan.

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I Love MTBF I wish it was above the title on every box for everything. but real World results outside a lab ,,, Some people call that beta other people call it 22H2...and I want a pump to last longer, Anyone know what the longest MTBF on an AIO is? I don't. Is there a spreadsheet? I got nadda...Kinda why I want to go with motorcycle parts.  Hondas don't break except AC's...

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Weber462
Challenger

I made the Switch to water a few years ago.  the price is little high, but Watercool products are quality.  Ive had 2 D5 pumps going 100% nonstop for the better part of 2 years with zero issues.  I only use their products now.  If you are willing to dive into Open loops.

https://shop.watercool.de/Pumps_1

When it comes to air cooling your bulldozer, maybe a  NH-U9B SE2?

https://noctua.at/en/catalogsearch/result/?q=am3%2B

Edit: i just read out of production.  Might have to hunt down used. sorry dude.

 

Volkdude85
Challenger

bulldozer went to kids and can be loud with el cheapo tower cooler,  Same as "big Zalman" 

Yeah I want make my own loop, Just not yet, but what I'm thinking is way exotic I want to play with mineral oil and Freon aluminum, plexi, Jbweld,,,,  Parts list all over the place from what I have learned in instrumentation, Cars, Hvac Repair and maintenance and just general tomfoolery with screwdrivers.  Be similiar to your " ICE BOX" without the wood,,,in places.

cpurpe91
Volunteer Moderator

According to the people I watch on YouTube most AIOs are supposed to last around 5 years but with the introduction of fill port like the BeQuiet AIOs I see no real reason they can't last longer. Air coolers can last forever. I know people who still have their Hyper 212s from about 8 years ago and the only thing they did was repast and replace the fans. I do recommend changing thermal compound every two years regardless of the cooling solution. But I'm not super great with computers. I can assemble them and configure them but that's where my knowledge on the matter ends. Air is probably better considering there are less possible points of failure.

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eebiii
Forerunner

I have had 1 failure of a Laing 3.2 pwm pump. Just made a crazy noise one day and stopped working. That was after a month, so I think it was bad from the start and I never noticed anything wrong. the 10+ other pumps never an issue over the last 6-8 years. Mostly D5 pumps from EK, Swiftech, Barrow...etc D5 pumps are really made well like @Weber462 mentioned. 

Ek was premium 10 years ago too..

Here is my main problem I know about the Kawasaki KLR650.

  If natural life on this planet ever ends, life will begin travel a new from a KLR650 as it is the apex undying cockroach in the world of motorcycles.  It's an iron behemoth of a mule from the 80's that keeps going and going and going.  A very Ugly KLR fuel pump is 35$ brand new, runs on 12 volts and it Will probably out live me...... 

EK is SO Pretty and they are made very well. 

I'm cheap, AND KLR's never Die though!(although in hours the EK is probably rated higher).

But I kinda want to brag that I red necked motorcycle parts into my rig.... 

It's stupid I know but I kinda like the undying cockroach pump...

like it better if it was 1/4 npt, But that makes it weird!

below is an inline racing fuel pump for $60. 3/8 flair in, 1/4 flair out. Flair tool kits are like $30, a tubing bender is like 20(if you want neat bends). the racing pump makes 75PSI the EK makes less than6 pounds (3.9 meters of water)

and Radiant Cooling works better at higher pressure. It is why the Spitfires(air plane) radiators were smaller than the German fighters. 

Copper flair tubing cools things well also

that $60 inline ain't ugly

It's not EK. but it is 75PSI and it is "Racing Parts"

My luck it's loud...

 

https://www.amazon.com/EVIL-ENERGY-External-300LPH-Universal/dp/B07Y9WW183/ref=psdc_15728151_t1_B01E...

and that is just a basic Carb to EFI fuel kit for like a Chevy LS/LT...

 

https://www.amazon.com/WENJTP-Current-Universal-External-580254044/dp/B093GPZLLP/ref=psdc_15728151_t...

$40 same thing without the logo it's 15 amps on the 12 v rail and the ek is 2 ,,,But

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I want you to brag about putting motorcycle parts in your rig and I see exactly what you're going for.

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SiN_Fury
Adept II

I like the worry free nature of air coolers. Don't need to worry about leaks, or natural evaporation over time (thus needing to refill if that's even possible.)

In the ~$50 range, I love my Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo. The Scythe Fuma 2 is also a popular cooler in that ballpark. Both do really well from a price to performance standpoint.

remove g 1/4" stop fitting...top off with coolant...replace g 1/4" stop fitting.. Done

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Volkdude85
Challenger

I can make a cold block out of brass plate, routed HDPE, all thread, gasketing and flair fittings. It'll be simple and not fancy... it'll work and take 75psi!

refrigerant is same can of worms just different channel density in the HDPE.