PC Graphics

[bisonium]

The newly released Blender 3.0 is said to take support for AMD GPUs to the next level, which I have been very happy to test as a very appreciated feature since OpenCL is not the vere fastest. But, my Radeon PRO WX100  is a pretty new model, but as I can see the support for that adapter is lost totally? I can not take advantage of the new "better support" and "Cycles X", or am I missing something??

Best

Mattias

[elstaci]

Maybe AMD Forum's Moderator on Professional GPU Cards can help @fsadough otherwise you can try and check AMD ProRender Forum and see if anyone there can answer your question: https://community.amd.com/t5/blender-discussions/bd-p/blender-discussions

Even though the above like is for Blender Plug-in for ProRender program.

[fsadough]

Blender supports GPU rendering on discrete graphics cards with the AMD RDNA architecture or newer and AMD Radeon Software 21.12.1 or AMD Radeon PRO Software 21.Q4 GPU drivers or newer.

Support GPUs include:

• AMD Radeon RX 5000 Series

• AMD Radeon RX 6000 Series

• AMD Radeon Pro W6000 Series

Radeon Pro WX7100 is based on GCN Architecture and not RDNA

[bisonium]

Thanks for answer. So, the correct term would be "newest" GPU architectures rathern that "new". Because, in my world a professional high-end graphics card, invested in less than 2 years ago is still new architecture, even if there offcourse always going to be newer/newest architecture available. So, my investment in AMD professional gx adapter despite Nividia-people trying to convince me that Nivida CUDA is the path to follow for rendering, was not very wice. I don't have the money for another investment in graphics card.

Thanks anyway

/Mattias

[elstaci]

@fsadough, can the OP use ProRender with a Blender Plug-in since I believe ProRender is compatible with all RX GPU Cards.

Or is that different then using Blender by itself?

[fsadough]

ProRender ist different

[bisonium]

ProRender just craches for me with new Blender 3.0, before it was my togo renderer. 

/Mattias

[fsadough]

Regarding ProRender crach with new Blender 3.0:

• Which OS?
• Which GPU driver is installed?
• Which ProRender version is being used?

[bisonium]

OS: Win10  21H1

GPU: Tried both the latest 21.40 and the 21.40 BETA for Blender 3.0

ProRender: latest

/Mattias

[fsadough]

• Which 21.40 driver? Please be precise.
• ProRender latest version? Find out the version you are running and indicated the version.

[bisonium]

My versions etc.:

GPU - AMD Radeon (TM) Pro WX 7100 Graphics - Primär/Diskret
VRAM - 8192 MB - GDDR5 1750 MHz
Grafikkortstillverkare - Designed and built by AMD
Grafikkrets - AMD Radeon (TM) Pro WX 7100 Graphics
Enhets-ID - 67C4
Leverantörens ID - 1002
Undersystemets ID - 0B0D
ID för undersystemets leverantör - 1002
ID för revision - 00
Busstyp - PCI Express 3.0
Aktuella bussinställningar - PCI Express 3.0 x16
BIOS-version - 015.050.000.001
BIOS artikelnummer - 113-C9540101-103
BIOS-datum - 2017/09/08 05:00
Minnesstorlek som går att använda - 8192 MB
Minnestyp - GDDR5
Minnesklocka - 1750 MHz
Huvudklocka - 1243 MHz
Total minnesbandbredd - 224 GByte/s
Minnesbithastighet - 7.00 Gbps
Sökväg för 2D-drivrutin - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000
OpenGL® API Version - 4.6
OpenCL™ API Version - 2.0

GPU - AMD Radeon (TM) Pro WX 7100 Graphics - Primär/Diskret
VRAM - 8192 MB - GDDR5 1750 MHz
Programversion - 2021.1111.1118.20354
Drivrutinsversion - 21.40.05.01-211111a-373703E-RadeonPROEnterprise
Leverantör - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
2D-drivrutinsversion - 8.1.1.1634
Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01515
OpenGL® Version - 29.20.11000.14802
AMD-ljuddrivrutinsversion - 10.0.1.23
Vulkan™ Driver Version - 2.0.204
Vulkan™ API Version - 1.2.196
Windows-version - Windows 10 (64 bit) 21H1 (19043.1348) Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0

Before this driver i used the at-the-moment-latest (!!!!!!!) found on AMD:s page of latest drivers, i.e. win10-win11-radeon-pro-software-21.q4-dec3. Is that precise enough??

/Mattias

[fsadough]

No, it is not. I need the exact ProRender version:

• Which 21.40 driver? Please be precise. => OK
• ProRender latest version? Find out the version you are running and indicated the version. => Missing

[bisonium]

Version: RadeonProRenderForBlender_3.3.0_Windows.Release_October_2021

Blender some times just exits (crash)  Or it just say

"Error | 'Material'  object has no attribute 'cycles'. Please see logs for more details"

I have dissabled Cycles and ProRender forth and back, but no luck still. In 2.93 it still works. Now I have deleted all earlier Blender installations and re-installed both blender 3.0 and ProRender 3.3.0 . Still same error. 

I don't know where the log file for this is located (or wich log file for that matter), so I cannot tail that log unfortunately.

/Mattias

[bisonium]

So, I had an i7-4730K with 32GB RAM and an AMD Radeon PRO WX7100 GPU. Since Blender does not let me use that "old" GPU anymore, I decided to go for the new RNDA2-architecture (AMD Radeon Pro W6600), after I read that this GPU will give much faster rendering (up to 10 times faster) with "Cycles-X" that is now part of Blender 3.0.

I bought a new computer i9-12900K with 64GB ram but sadly did not get the W6600 GPU directly. I tried rendering anyway. Comparing the render times, I now got about four times faster renders with this new computer even without the ordered GPU (12 minute compared to 42 minutes) for a typical blender scene I use as a "benchmark".

But, now after receiving the new Radeon Pro  w6600 GPU, the render times are not at all faster, rather actually slower when activating the "CPU+GPU" mode compared to when using only the CPU while rendering. How is that? Was that GPU investment totally unnecessary after upgrading to a i9-12900K? I feel confused, I hoped for some faster render. Any ideas?

Best
Mattias

[elstaci]

If you are using AMD ProRender with a Blender Plugin there is a AMD Blender Forum you can try from here: https://community.amd.com/t5/radeon-prorender/ct-p/amd-radeon-prorender

[bisonium]

Thanks for the advice! For now I use latest Blender (not supporting ProRender), as Cycles-X is supposed to give really fast rendering experience with supported GPU. I will try out the Proredner again, as soon it is supported to the latest Blender

Maybe I can try to install booth the WX7100 and the W6600 cards together and achieve faster results with Prorender.

Best

Mattias

[fsadough]

Radeon Pro WX7100 was released in Nov 2016. The GPU is 5 years old.

[bisonium]

So, the W5700 is not supported, still it is RDNA architecture?

That one cost "only" about €1000 and would have been almost affordable.

/Mattias

[fsadough]

Radeon Pro W5xxx is RDNA1 and supported

[fsadough]

W5700 not supported on Linux in combination with Blender. On Windows it is supported.

[PawAll3Deller]

Hm...Ok, a how to install 22q4 from Linux Arch, Manjaro?
No such driver exists.
And in my case, the blender does not see my R pro W5500

[fsadough]

1. We support RHEL, Ubuntu & SLES
   https://www.amd.com/en/support/professional-graphics/radeon-pro/radeon-pro-w5000-series/radeon-pro-w...
   
   
2. Which version of Blender?

[PawAll3Deller]

3.4 LTS