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Windows 7 versus Windows 10: Here comes the final showdown (one view of this issue)

ZDNET view on Windows 7 being not supported anymore next year: Windows 7 versus Windows 10: Here comes the final showdown | ZDNet

Windows 7 versus Windows 10: Here comes the final showdown

With less than a year to a major Windows 7 support deadline, it’s decision time for the PC.

It's now less than a year until Windows 7 goes out of mainstream support; after January 14, 2020, Microsoft will no longer provide security updates or support for PCs running Windows 7 -- unless you want to pay extra, of course. 

This is a big issue for many companies: while Windows 7 is long in the tooth (it went on sale back in October 2009), it's much loved -- at least, as much as a PC operating system can be loved -- and is still widely used.

Indeed, even though Windows 10 has been around since late 2015, it's only in the last month or so that general usage of Windows 10 has finally overtaken Windows 7. According to Microsoft there are 1.5 billion devices running Windows, with more than 700 million running Windows 10. But that means there are hundreds of millions of devices running Windows 7, with that support deadline looming.

Microsoft is certainly keen for businesses to upgrade, touting the security of Windows 10 over Windows 7 as a good reason to make the move. It's also keen to get as many users onto Windows 10 as possible because that will help it build momentum behind Windows-as-a-Service, which means regular feature updates rather than massive upgrade projects every few years.

But enterprises, which are often cautious about new technology, will have noted Microsoft's buggy recent Windows 10 upgrades and will worry about the impact on their infrastructure.

So what happens now?

Andrew Hewitt, a tech analyst at Forrester Research, says the past two years has already seen a massive migration and push towards Windows 10. 

  

According to Forrester's survey of infrastructure decision-makers, 56 percent of company-issued PCs are currently running Windows 10 -- up eight percent from last year, and 18 percent from the year before. "This shift is happening at a quick rate, but as you can see, there's still quite a ways to go before everyone is shifted over to Windows 10," says Hewitt.

So why hasn't everyone updated yet? One reason is that businesses have legacy apps that aren't compatible with Windows 10 and they don't know what to do about it, or they have not yet done their application compatibility testing -- a key migration milestone. Some are concerned about the frequency of Windows updates and don't have the processes in place to adequately respond, and some are concerned about cost.

"All these things work together to keep organizations on Windows 7," Hewitt says.

Hewitt predicts that even by the 2020 date, we won't be seeing full Windows 10 adoption, as some organisations are comfortable waiting longer before they make these changes. There are also some non-standard devices, like ruggedized devices, that will run Windows 7 for quite some time, he says.

"I'm optimistic about the vast majority of organizations making the move by 2020, but it certainly won't be 100 percent. Some will consider other alternatives -- like ChromeOS, for example -- which we've seen increasingly adopted in enterprise use cases," says Hewitt.

A few years ago, getting customers to shift to the newest version of Windows might have been a make-or-break project for Microsoft, but it's no longer just the Windows company these days.

In its quarterly company results, Windows is now unceremoniously lumped in with Surface, gaming and search revenue under More Personal Computing. For Microsoft, the priority is its other two revenue baskets -- Productivity and Business Processes (which includes Dynamics and Office 365) and Intelligent Cloud -- both of which, while slightly smaller by revenue, are growing faster than the group that includes Windows.  

That's probably just as well; PC shipments have been in decline for seven -- yes, seven -- years now. Consumers are buying fewer PCs (40 percent of them, down from 49 percent just five years ago), which means that PCs -- and Windows -- are increasingly mainly a business tool. As Microsoft largely missed the boat on smartphones, tablets and wearables, aiming at productivity and the cloud is a wise choice.

That's not to say the PC isn't still important: it's the gateway to many other products like Office 365, and to a lesser extent to Microsoft's cloud offerings. And despite claims that Windows would give way to Chromebooks (or, even further into the distant past, Linux on the desktop), Microsoft's OS has proved remarkably resilient. Deciding what to do about the demise of Windows 7 will be a headache and create plenty of work for IT, but the reality is that Windows is not as vital as it once was, thanks to the rise of the browser, the cloud and new device types, all of which mean that the desktop is no longer the only option for productivity.

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Windows can be fairly well secured using simple steps, such as using a restricted user account, EMET, and DEP. It's even more secure if you use a Linux virtual machine for internet browsing and especially if then you use the checkpoint system so that anything you do in the VM is erased at shutdown, leaving you with your fresh slate every time. The latter is not usually suited for a business environment though. But still, the former with a bit of common sense is all you need, especially if you have a competent IT department.

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I have been using windows 10 since it was an alpha product, to me it's old

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markwilliams
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Windows 10 is steadily growing in popularity but it still hasn’t managed to topple Windows 7. According to NetMarketShare, Windows 10 is on 28% of desktop PCs, but Windows 7 still has more than half of the market share at 44%.Many have held back from updating to Windows 10 because they're afraid of technical problems, don't like the Windows 10 user interface or are concerned some features may be missing. To dispell any confusion, we’ve compared some of the main features of Windows 7 with their Windows 10 equivalents.

For more information about win 10 and win 10 pro, please check this article.https://dailytechposts.com/windows-10-home-or-pro-for-gaming/ 

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Microsoft claims a much higher amount of computers using Windows 10. But that's because if a machine ever had Windows 10 on it is considered to be using Windows 10. Even if the user uninstalled it and is running a earlier version.

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There's not any real way to determine how many Windows 7 installations are still out there, once you take into account all the business computers which are secured against this kind of information gathering and prevented from using Windows Update because they are managed by WSUS, pirated copies, and copies "illegally" running in a VM. Microsoft even admitted they count every single device which has ever had Windows 10 tied to its product key as a Windows 10 device, including the people who claimed their free Windows 10 upgrade using a Windows 7 and 8.1 key then immediately reverted back to that OS, something many of the reputable tech sites told users to do, and the failed Windows Phone.

Another problem with Windows 10 is the following chart, current as of December 2018. It's generated by AdDuplex, a company which serves ads in Windows Store/Microsoft Store apps which you can't bloody well block the way you can block ads in a browser. Thanks to the stupid update model, the userbase is still quite fragmented.

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I am using 1809 as it is the latest ISO and I have done clean installs on several machines

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I always delay these CU updates for as long as possible, because they generally break Freesync/Gsync. Then 90% of the features in the updates are stuff that I do not care about. So I am at 1803.

My new company uses Win 10, and my last one was still on 7, as of mid last year.

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Don't forget they often remove features that people can find useful. The Snipping Tool, for instance, is being replaced with Snip & Sketch starting with the first CU of 2019. Disk Cleanup is being discontinued and merged with Storage Sense starting with the first CU of 2019. XPS Viewer was removed in 1803. Microsoft Reader discontinued and merged with Edge in 1709. ReFS abandoned with 1701.

And don't forget, Edge will be turned into a reskinned Chromium based browser in the first CU of this year.

This gained extra significance earlier this week due to the proposal of Google wanting to kill ad blockers in Chrome, this on top of the fact that Microsoft accused Google of breaking Google services in Edge.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/google-killing-chrome-ad-blockers,38498.html

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qwixt wrote:

I always delay these CU updates for as long as possible, because they generally break Freesync/Gsync. Then 90% of the features in the updates are stuff that I do not care about. So I am at 1803.

 

My new company uses Win 10, and my last one was still on 7, as of mid last year.

Windows 10 has excellent game and application compatibility on modern hardware. Even my dinosaur rigs like it fine.

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Not talking about game compatibility, only freesync/gsync compatibility. Which starting at 1603 or the next version, we get broke for a period of time before it was fixed as they implemented new WDDM versions. In fact, freesync/gsync was broke for an entire CU once (16xx or 17xx, can't remember which).

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Last I checked WDDM is now 2.5 as Microsoft adds now low level capabilities. 

gimmicks like gsync and freesync have been flooding the forums for a long time which is why I stick with my 1920x1080 LCD which has survived fine

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