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Mitolo
Journeyman III

Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

Can you ever trust some one after they LIE to you ....??? Pure BS and the one who said no shortage of cards should be fired .

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Re: Why did AMD LIE saying there would be plenty of Radeon VII on launch ? WTF that is as bad as NVIDIA

There's going to be 5000 cards, and at $700 USD (higher in other countries due to exchange rate, import fees, and VAT), it's not exactly going to fly off the shelves considering the noisy cooler, hefty power draw, and lack of future proof features compared to the CHEAPER RTX 2080.

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os2wiz
Elite

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

Still in all most of those issues are solvable with the latest driver release and using wattman to auto undervolt the card reduces the fan speed to a tolerable level.  As far as demand AMD has proven at times to resort to lying like Nvidia does, when it suits their purpose. The truth is only one of 2 possibilities: the yields are low on 7nm process or they are so good that AMD would rather not disable units to sell at $699 when they can sell the Radeon Instinct for about $3000. Many seasoned industry experts are saying AMD has no plan to mass produce this card as the profit margin is so slim with the 16GB of HBM2 that is included. According to them this card was for bragging rights for the first consumer 7nm gpu and to hold users in place until the much delayed Navi is ready for mass production. This tactic is frustrating to those who genuinely want to purchase the Radeon 7 card. By not executing nimbly on Navi AMD has painted itself into a corner. Whatever they do until Navi arrives will alienate many. If Navi does not come until October and does not exceed expectations in performance, AMD will really suffer greatly.  They need better leadership in the gpu division and more resources. Having to retape Navi due to a design flaw set them back several months. Better management and resources should have discovered this issue earlier in the game.  My own view is that truth is better told to customers than lies. Being frank about the errors builds more confidence than trying to paper over problems and giving out no explanation or one that just doesn't ring true.

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os2wiz
Elite

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

The 2080 is NOT cheaper. It is extremly rare to find a RTX 2080 for $699, most are priced closer to $800 to $850. Spreading misinformation is NOT in the interest of users here. The latest driver allows one to do an auto undervolt that reduces fan speed noticeably. A manual undervolt will also work and can reduce it even more. Be honest!

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Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

It's not rare, it's regular price on Newegg for some models. It's the 8GB model yes, but you're not going to exceed that in games at this time even at 4K.

And there are currently 2 models on sale cheaper than that, a reference blower edition for $679.99 and a custom edition for $683.99, the latter being a much better deal than the Vega II in the USA.

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os2wiz
Elite

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

  Not quite true there are some games that want 11GB of memory. In

another year there will be several more.

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Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

Name one and post benchmarks from reputable review sites showing real performance differences between 6/8 GB cards and 11/12GB cards. 3DMark 4K/8X AA and Uningine Superposition 4K/8xAA don't count.

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os2wiz
Elite

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

  This was mentioned by YouTuber Not an Apple Fan or Adored TV. It was

not a benchmark, they showed it in a game how the game demanded 11GB of

vram. Sorry I can't be more specific but the video was quite explicit.

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ajlueke
Grandmaster

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

It has been readily available from AMD's shop for a few days now.

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os2wiz
Elite

Re: Why Did AMD Say There Would Be Plenty Of Radeon VII on Launch?

  Sporadically in drips and drabs. I doubt if more than 10,000 have

been sold yet and little more produced. Newegg.com and Amazon only had

availability on initial day for an hour or less.

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