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cpurpe91
Volunteer Moderator

When Should I Upgrade To AM5?

I have been using AM4 since my first real build. I haven't really had any issues with bottlenecks since I upgraded to my Ryzen 7 5700X, but Starfield. Are games that are coming more likely to saturate my CPU the way Starfield does? Are CPUs going to be what hold people back from experiencing "Next Gen" games? 

I am hesitant to upgrade to AM5 due to the cost of the platform, and the issues that have been popular topics of discussion. How many people were actually effected by the "Exploding CPU" problem that involved Asus and a few other board partners? Is the issue resolved? Would it be better for me to wait for AMD Ryzen 8000 series? How far out would you say the release of the 8000 series is? 

Is the performance gained worth the price to upgrade before the 8000 series releases? 

What are your thoughts? What is in your setup, and how well does it perform?  

Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk Wifi, Corsair DOMINATOR® TITANIUM RGB 2x16GB DDR5 DRAM 6000MT/s CL30, Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX, Corsair HX Series™ HX1000, Corsair MP600 PRO NH 4TB
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johnnyenglish
Big Boss

The first Ryzen had its dramas as well but they turned out to be a game changer. With that Said.. most people expected the AM5 7xxx to be the same game changer.

However, the story is different now, Ryzen CPUs already mastered the chiplet design and the 16cores of the 7950X are a true force to be reckon with. They will stomp anything and sometimes even a 4090 can bottleneck the CPU.

Still, 7xxx are the first gen of AM5 and growing pains are expected, the IMC for example. 

The exploding CPU was not easy to digest but was also overly hyped. Enabling EXPO gave us like 1,48v on vSoC, a tad too much. Since then, I've manually adjusted mine to 1,18v running EXPO 6000 without a problem. The failure rate was actually pretty insignificant.

The boot Times, not sure what to say here. I do get more boot time than AM4 but thats on ASUS. When they decide to fix that MCR like other brands did, its pretty on par with AM4. Got a video showing it. If you go with 128gb, well.. then expect higher boot times but Intel does the same. Guess that DDR5 has a long way to go to.

Conclusion, with your system a 5800X3D is almost a mandatory upgrade for games to come.

But AM5 is just amazing. I'm glad and honored to use it, games run like a charm and video editing is like a breeze.

You can check my RAPHAEL topic for more details.

Local IT gives the AM5 7950X a score of 101 out of 100.

 

 

 

 

The Englishman
ulieq
Adept III

dont its buggy and 5800xd is as good as 7700

cpurpe91
Volunteer Moderator

How much uplift would one see from the CPU I currently have, to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D? 

Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk Wifi, Corsair DOMINATOR® TITANIUM RGB 2x16GB DDR5 DRAM 6000MT/s CL30, Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX, Corsair HX Series™ HX1000, Corsair MP600 PRO NH 4TB

Just pulled a random youtuber bench.

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The Englishman

That might be enough performance uplift to stay on AM4.

Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk Wifi, Corsair DOMINATOR® TITANIUM RGB 2x16GB DDR5 DRAM 6000MT/s CL30, Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX, Corsair HX Series™ HX1000, Corsair MP600 PRO NH 4TB
BigAl01
Volunteer Moderator

Are you sure the game is too much for your 5700X CPU or could it be too much for the 6800 XT?  Do you have $1K to throw at a new top of the line video card or are you limited to much less of an expenditure?  

If you have a use for the current computer as a backup machine or perhaps a work machine, then you can justify a new build.  If the machine would just sit in the corner, then look seriously at the 5800X3D CPU.


As Albert Einstein said, "I could have done so much more with a Big Al's Computer!".
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Anonymous
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One of the key gaming factors is the superior single threading of AM5 cpu's.

IMHO I wouldn't put that much $$$ towards a EOL chipset.

The time for AM5 is now. It is the way...

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Volodymyr
Adept I

I'm not sure I'll bring any "interesting" ideas, but my "need to upgrade" trigger is when the same processor (but from the next generation) gives double the boost.

example:

I have an R7 5700X. The presentation of the R7 8700X took place today.

If R7 8700X efficiency ==R7 5700X efficiency *2

=>I'm going to build a new PC.

Otherwise

=>I have the best configuration

   Money/Performance I can buy.

Also, I'm not considering an upgrade (it's more of a "nice to have") because I've never upgraded the CPU in my PC build (tech moves way faster than I'm willing to spend on a CPU only, and what should I do with the old one?).

So when I'm planning a new build I think about what the build is for and how energy (and money/performance) efficient it will be.

BigAl01
Volunteer Moderator

What to do with the old parts?  Well, I generally don't upgrade computers peace meal either.  A few times I have upgraded just the CPU, but generally I go ahead and build another computer.  At least once a year, based on my current inventory of 11 gaming computers.  I don't know if it's a sickness or a talent.  I enjoy it and there's that certain pleasure you get with the first successful boot of a new build. 

I built 'Wine-Time' on the AM5 platform.  It's my main computer now.I built 'Wine-Time' on the AM5 platform. It's my main computer now.

 


As Albert Einstein said, "I could have done so much more with a Big Al's Computer!".