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jtandog
Journeyman III

PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

Hi,

My specs:
Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHZ
8GB DD4 2133 MHz
240GB SSD

RX580 8GB

I'm running PUBG at 70 FPS average on my zotac 1050TI.

Recently I purchase a RX580 and installed it on my pc. Eveything is fine, no errors or anything. I play smooth on DOTA 2, Black Dessert Online except for PUBG. Can someone help? When I start PUBG, the game lags from the start. I already reinstall it and still the same, I also deleted the settings found in AppData/Local/TslGame. No Help.

Any help is really appreciated. Missing playing PUBG

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pablo1301
Adept I

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

Hola recibiste respuesta por este problema. Yo tengo actualmente uno similar, cambie mi nvidia 1050ti por la amd 5700rx y ahora no me funciona el pubg.

Me podés ayudar? Gracias.

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pokester
MVP

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

In general PUBG is a horribly optimized game. Even the developer says this. It does favor the green team in performance. It also favors high single core speed. A 1050ti in my experience as a gpu is considerably less powerful than an RX 580. However a 1050ti is less cpu dependent. Meaning a slower cpu will bottleneck an RX 580 before it would a 1050ti. 

It may help to look at these optimization guides:

Steam Community :: Guide :: PUBG Optimization 

Best Settings for PUBG to Get Maximum FPS [PUBG Optimization Tips] 

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warsun
Challenger

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

I have been advising this for a while. I tried on Reddit but i don't post there often so they not only deleted my post but threatened me about not staying on the site an continuously post. Yeah i am just gonna hit as many people as i can with this good advice. Roll it back. Set your settings to default on your graphics card then.

Uninstall your driver an install this one. https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-17-9-1 

pokester
MVP

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

There is no doubt that the pre-Wattman drivers were far more stable. Unfortunately depending on what you play using them may or may not be possible. If you need the added fixes for particular games you are out of luck. If you are a non-gamer those old drivers may very well be much more stable. I know they were for me. 

pokester
MVP

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

Subsequently I have seen this advice spammed across many threads where not applicable. Older drivers may be a great fix for supported cards as suggested in this thread. However one should never load an old driver for an unsupported card. If in doubt read the release notes. They always spell out what cards are supported. 

warsun
Challenger

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

An you have tested this when? Because i can contest it. I have used them on the many computers i have built and on the different cards i have bought. The driver is perfectly fine. If you have no proof then you have to consider it an option.

leyvin
Miniboss

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

Anything on Unreal Engine 3 or 4 is generally going to run better on NVIDIA than AMD / ATI.

PUBG, while rarely mentioned as such... is an Unreal Engine 4 Game., using quite an early version of the "Free Development" Engine by a 1st Time Developer; whose primarily using Kismet Scripting.

In other words., it runs pretty poorly on most Hardware. 

Now as an added "Aw Damn it!" aspect., since about 2005 ... Epic and NVIDIA have been best buddies. 

Hence why they switched from MathEngine Karma (today known as Havok Physics) to PhysX, a switch to Integrate Gameworks., which as an added "Dick Move" they removed all previous DirectX 12 support at the time ... leading to some shipped games (Gear of War 4 on PC for example, suddenly loosing DirectX 12 Support and tanking performance on all AMD GCN Cards) at least until RTX Integration in Mid 2019., along side the Turing Architecture Release; but they've only recently (about 4 months ago) added it to the Release Engine (for use in Fortnite).

And as a note if you're a UE4 Developer., you can presently only enable it with Source Code Access; and even then it isn't exactly made "Developer Friendly" to re-enable without RTX (then it's just an option in the Editor).

So, yeah... to say that UE4 isn't exactly "AMD Graphics Architecture Friendly" (outside of Consoles) would be an understatement.

Typically speaking, even in Fortnite... GCN will tend to get about 65% the Performance of their Competitor on DirectX 11., but in the new DirectX 12 Mode; they claw back to ~80-85%.

Keep in mind in most DirectX 12 Games the RX 580 will comfortably out-perform the GTX 1060, and in most DirectX 11 Games will tend to trade blows. 

Given that PUBG tends to be a little less performant overall (10-12% Lower Performance than Fortnite) due to less optimisation AND it suffers from horrible Frame Jitter / Stutter on AMD Architecture... I wouldn't recommend it with said game.

I mean the reality is... there is a reason why in the 8th Gen, Unreal Engine 3 was ubiquitous as "THE" Game Engine everything used., as while sure it screwed over ATI a bit; it wasn't too bad.

Frankly I'd argue that was the influence of CliffyB and them being Microsoft Partners... but since switching to Tencent and Sweeny being in-charge (who after the end of their Microsoft Partnership was just seriously unprofessional with his constant attacks against the Xbox and UWP Platforms... not to mention DirectX 12 being EVERYTHING they'd been asking in a Graphics API, but then when it released they suddenly trashed it?!? Well, I think it somehow helps to explain why A LOT of their Talent jumped ship to form Coalition and go straight back to Microsoft) was all probably something keeping that more unbias that meant ... sure performance could be poor, but it was bad on both ATI and NVIDIA (in different ways, but still bad).

With Unreal Engine 4 though... it's like all pretence went out the door, and with it a lot of Studios switched to either make their own Engines (which is a great thing, as Studios should have their own engines and be that close to the hardware to get the most out of what they want to create) or jumped ship to Unity; which again might not have great performance, but at least they're not taking sides with a Graphics or Processor IHV.

...

If you still have your NVIDIA GPU, and MUST play PUBG (I think there's some better options available today, as most games have some form of Battle Royale now) then just keep it in there and set Windows 10 up to switch to it when using that Game. 

If not... eh, you'll probably just have to live with lower framerates than you're used to even with optimised settings. 

But then flipside... most other games are going to run great. 

pokester
MVP

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

The proof is in the release notes for the driver. Plus the fact that an 5700XT is NAVI architecture not GCN. The driver you suggest only supports GCN period. 

Taken right from the release notes. These are the cards supported:

Radeon Product Compatibility
Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition 17.9.1 is compatible with the following AMD Radeon products.

Note: AMD Radeon™ R9 Fury, Radeon™ Pro Duo, Radeon™ RX 400 Series, AMD Radeon™ RX 500 Series and Radeon RX Vega Series Graphics are only supported by Radeon Software Crimson ReLive Edition on Windows 7/10 64-bit.

Radeon Desktop Product Family Compatibility
Radeon RX Vega Series GraphicsRadeon™ RX 500 Series Graphics
Radeon™ RX 400 Series GraphicsAMD Radeon™ Pro Duo
AMD Radeon™ R7 300 Series GraphicsAMD Radeon™ R7 200 Series Graphics
AMD Radeon™ R9 Fury Series GraphicsAMD Radeon™ R5 300 Series Graphics
AMD Radeon™ R9 Nano Series GraphicsAMD Radeon™ R5 200 Series Graphics
AMD Radeon™ R9 300 Series GraphicsAMD Radeon™ HD 8500 - HD 8900 Series Graphics
AMD Radeon™ R9 200 Series Graphics

AMD Radeon™ HD 7700 - HD 7900 Series Graphics

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warsun
Challenger

Re: PUBG lags, switched from Nvidia 1050ti to AMD RX580

Yes i see. An you are deeply concerned that it wont work. Here is the fact. It can work an if it doesn't. You just uninstall it. its not like it does any damage. Relax.If it doesn't work you just Remove the card hit the power turning it on. Then turn it off. unplug it. Put the card back in. Then plug it back in an turn on the power an it restores to the default installed driver for Windows. You are literally shaking with fear of something. Relax. Its fine.

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