Why AMD still has an uphill battle

Discussion created by nec_v20 on Jul 28, 2020
Latest reply on Jul 31, 2020 by nec_v20

I came across the following video and it basically exemplifies why AMD has an uphill battle among those I call  "Computer User, Non-Technical".



My comment on the video:


Before I tell you why you are wrong, you have to reflect upon the saying, "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it".


You will find the book from Paul Carroll entitled, "Big Blues: The Unmaking of IBM", very enlightening and a foreshadowing of the future in store for Intel. If you are still as confident in your "Buy Intel" mantra after reading this and comparing what happened then to IBM to what is happening now to Intel, then, as they say, "I want a pound of what you are smoking".


Intel is not directly involved with 5G but rather its supporting technology, which means that Intel is replaceable.


In the realm of Data Centres Intel has an inertia of orders which it is fulfilling, but I would strongly advise you to look at what is happening in the realm of NEW contracts and you will see that AMD is cleaning Intel's clock on that front. I am not speaking of contracts to upgrade existing Intel installations but rather brand new contracts for new server infrastructure projects.


Intel will not have 7nm until 2023 by the earliest. This means that Intel will have started to catch up in the node size to where AMD has been since 2019. Intel is nowhere close to where AMD is with regard to their processor designs, and their GPUs are a joke in comparison to what is now available from AMD and Nvidia.


When Intel finally gets to 7nm AMD will have been on 5nm for at least two years, and will have their competing products on the market.


You implied that AMD is an upstart company, but AMD beat Intel back in the day to 64-bit computing (what is now being implemented in the realms of 64-bit OS and software architectures is based on AMD's architecture and not Intel's); also AMD beat Intel to the the multi-core CPU architecture.


AMD has been around for 50 years.


With regard to other markets involving CPUs Intel is losing out to ARM - Apple only being one small part of that equation.


Here is a video from someone who is very well connected in the computer scene, and he has impeccable sources. This video may shock you:




If I knew anyone with Intel stocks (those I know who did have, sold their Intel stocks weeks ago at my urging and bought AMD) then I would be urging them to get rid of them, because the news is only going to get worse for Intel as 2020 progresses and in 2021, 2022 and probably at least a couple of years beyond that - EVEN IF INTEL STARTS GETTING IT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW!.


The next piece of really bad news, which will probably be the nail in the coffin for Intel with regard to the PC desktop/server market will be coming this October/November when AMD will be bringing out their Zen3 architecture.


At present the maximum clockspeed you can get out of an Intel CPU without exotic cooling is 5.3 GHz at 90+ degrees Celsius. With Zen3 you will be able to get a CPU with more cores than Intel has which will be running at the Intel equivalent of over 6 GHz, and desktop CPUs based on this brand new architecture will be able to be cooled by a good $80 air cooler. Intel's last boast in the PC market of being, "The Fastest Gaming CPU" will crash and burn.


If you have any further questions I will enjoy answering them.


I didn't say that as an AMD fanboy but rather from the standpoint that presently I just could not see myself either building a system for myself, or when advising someone else, to choose an Intel based system.


This was most certainly different three years ago and to a great extent different even two years ago.


What the video however demonstrates is that AMD does not yet have the mindshare clout that Intel has and thus cannot afford to take it easy, sit back, and just expect the World to come to them.