17 Replies Latest reply on Feb 24, 2018 6:44 PM by plumboby

    18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows

    faqu

      Today I did a clean install of the new 18.2.3 Adrenalin driver and i have noticed that with this driver version MSI Afterburner is not launching at the Windows startup anymore , despite the fact that the app is set to . After seeing this , i switched back to 18.2.2 to make sure if the driver is faulty or not , and surprisingly or not , with 18.2.2 Afterburner is launching at the Windows startup without any problems.

      I tried to do a 2nd clean install of the new 18.2.3 driver , but the issue remained the same .

      It'll be highly appreciated if someone can test and confirm this issue .

       

      Note: I even reinstalled the app (MSI Afterburner) but the issue is still there with 18.2.3 , so i concluded that it is the driver's fault , not the app's .

       

      PC Specs :

      i7 6700 @3.40GHz

      Gigabyte H110M S2H rev 1.0 (F25a bios)

      16GB DDR4 2133MHz

      RX 480 8GB

      Driver Adrenalin 18.2.3 (clean installed)

      Windows 10 Pro 64bit (Build 16299)

       

      Edit #1 : I forgot to mention that i am using the MSI Afterburner 4.4.2 Stable/Final version

      Edit #2 : The issue was solved with the help of elstaci and kingfish . All i had to do was to create a new task schedule for Afterburner , using the Window's Task Scheduler

        • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
          dargo_3dc

          No problem here, MSI Afterburner starts as usual.

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          • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
            elstaci

            never mentioned the MSI Afterburner version you have installed.

            • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
              plumboby

              Dont use 3rd party sites like afterburner with AMD radeon settings it conflicts it everytime. use the standard Radeon software all you need + more & you got way more control Afterburner is only good if you got a crapper card from nvidia. Lesson learnt from some 1 who use to use afterburner dont bother with using with the AMD cards since new drivers as the Adrenaline & latest drivers from AMD are to counter & eliminate needing the use of 3rd party software. I can do all i need & more with the Radeon software compare to afterburner. As well afterburner will from conflicts & issues.

                • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                  faqu

                  Afterburner is way superior than Wattman for my needs so I don't plan on stopping to use the application. That being said , if you can't provide me any useful information about how could I fix my issue , i please you to just quit the topic.

                    • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                      elstaci

                      Plumboby was just informing you that MSI Afterburner does have conflicts with AMD Wattman, even if you don't have Wattman installed. Some users doesn't seem to have problems with the program running on their setup but many others it does. Anyway, it is recommended by most knowledgeable people in AMD Forum to uninstall 3rd party software like MSI Afterburner since it isn't entirely compatible with AMD Wattman.

                       

                      But that is up to the individuals users discretion.

                        • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                          faqu

                          I am already aware that Afterburner may conflict with Wattman , but since Wattman is not even close to being as good as Afterburner for my needs , I don't plan to stop using Afterburner.

                          Anyway , my current issue is not a big one , since I can open Afterburner manually , but I was just wondering if anyone had a similar issue with the new 18.2.3 driver , and that's why I created this topic .

                           

                          Replys like : "do not use 3rd party apps" ; are not helpful for me , and that's why I told mr. Plumboby to quit the topic . To clear any confusion , I didn't meant to be mean to him or anything .

                            • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                              elstaci

                              Maybe it is best to just use version 18.2.2 unless version 18.2.3 has a fix that 18.2.2 had a known issue with and is affecting your computer. I would just wait until AMD updates the 18.2.3 driver again to a newer version and at the same time make sure MSI Afterburner has the latest version installed.

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                                • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                  faqu

                                  Agreed . For now i will keep using 18.2.2 , and in the future if Afterburner will still refuse to launch at the Windows startup when having newer Radeon drivers installed , i'll just keep opening it manually , since it's not a big deal .

                                  Also i'll check daily to make sure if there are any Afterburner updates available , since it may be a bug caused by the app as well.

                                    • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                      elstaci

                                      Try creating a Task Schedule for MSI Afterburner to start during Login. That will be basically the same as starting it manually, instead Windows will start it for you during Login. Might want to check it to run with Admin Rights when creating the Scheduled Task.

                                       

                                      Once you create the Task, reinstall the 18.2.3 and restart your computer and see if MSI starts up. If not, delete the task and go back to version 18.2.2 .

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                                        • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                          faqu

                                          Oh my god , thank you so damn much man !

                                           

                                          I just did this using the Windows's Task Scheduler and it worked !

                                          I also noted that there was already a task schedule for Afterburner , and it was set to do launch with the Windows , but i have no idea why with 18.2.3 it simply.... doesn't want to launch ? Hahahah , i guess it doesn't matter anymore if the initial schedule created by Afterburner works with 18.2.3 or not , since you just gave me the golden solution

                                           

                                          Thanks you so much for your help again , and i wish you a sincerely great day/night !

                                        • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                          kingfish

                                          I don't know if this would make any difference, but I would look at Autoruns to see if it can be started automatically. You have to run Autoruns as Administrator (rt click). If the MSI/Afterburner entry is there and has no checkmark in the box...this might fix the issue.

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                              • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                plumboby

                                want problems use 3rd party OC software for AMD cards. Best advise use the proper software that AMD or you card maker provides wont cause conflicts. Simple solution if running win 10 with afterburner with AMD drivers Afterburner will always conflict issues with wattman even not activated. Want to solve issues run the best driver of the AMD drivers you like & tune to suit. I wont be using afterburner ever since AMD software is good from the get go. A lot comes down to the interface & learning to use it properly. Want issues use 3rd party software be warned tho will cause issues cause conflicts. read the disclaimers when installing software when doing driver updates its in full details. So before giving the driver team grief its known issue & not going to be fixed as you people wanna run 3rd party programs that are not designed to suit the driver software AMD release. All in the small print.

                                • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                  plumboby

                                  you havnt gone in depth with wattman properly yet to be using afterburner. Not being mean or nasty here but wattman is way superior. Tho i done bother OC my cards as they done actually need much off a buff. Wattmans improved over the last few updates just takes a bit of trial by error testing to get it working properly. I will do a few Relive videos of wattman when i get half an hr or 2. I been busy with my daughter & things & just fixed a couple issues i have had with the updates on drivers with my cards. Havnt done a proper full test thi i will be to show how wattman used properly works & works as good or better. Once my system runs stable for another day or 2 i will do a few videos & post them. I am going to do an in depth guide for people who run into issues. There alot of hidden features in the Radeon software that beats Afterburner. Only time i will use Afterburner is for an older build on Nvidia cards if i am going to do a quick sale or a quick repair. Tho once i get a few hrs & make sure all my issues & hardware is where it should be going to do a few to help. Another idea maybe if running into issues would be over riding the Radeon software so Afterburner takes control & tweak you setting to suit in your windows parameters. As windows has been causing some issues with afterburner latest updates to.

                                    • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                      faqu

                                      I mainly use Afterburner for :

                                      -Minimalist interface with useful interface tooltips about what each setting is doing

                                      -Monitoring for : each core of the CPU (usage/temperature/frequency) , the entire's CPU power usage , GPU (usage/temperature/power usage/voltages)  ,  RAM usage and PSU voltages , all of these with graphs and min/max values ; + 100ms hardware pooling period & unified GPU usage monitoring for better accuracy

                                      -Overclocking

                                      -Custom fan curves with percentage based fan speed , fan update period control in milliseconds ; +temperature hysteresis to remove unwanted fan fluctuations

                                      -Highly customizable OSD when using Afterburner + RivaTuner that is letting me to see some statistics (which are updated at a 100ms interval) , when gaming , about : framerate , frametimes , cpu usage , cpu temp , cpu frequency , cpu power usage , gpu usage , gpu temperature , gpu power usage , gpu voltages , ram usage , psu voltages , and Afterburner even allows you to display the system time on the OSD

                                      -Taking PNG (lossless) screenshots inside a game

                                      -Doing Benchmarks

                                      -Recording gameplay footage

                                       

                                      TLDR;

                                      Wattman + Performance Metrics are only providing me 1/3 of the useful features of Afterburner (+Rivatuner for OSD) , and since i didn't encountered any conflict between these 3rd party apps and AMD's drivers , i am not planning to remove them any soon.

                                       

                                      Conclusion : If you are just trying to convince me to give up on Afterburner , you'd be better wasting your time with anyone else.
                                                            All of these being said , please stop writing off-topic comments

                                    • Re: 18.2.3 prevents MSI Afterburner from starting with Windows
                                      plumboby

                                      cool good to see a good outcome out of this. Ideas are great good to see our community doing its job to help not like other communities which bring alot of hate & resentment. Once i get my stuff sorted going do some community help walkthroughs on Relive & maybe a troubleshoter to help any1 new or weird questions or things that can occur happen. Going do my stepsons soon with a R7360 2G i scored which i ran up the other night to eliminate any niggling issues i had my end. I will be doing a few runs & posting to suit older build hardware & newer to get an unbias run to give help as things i find along the way to help.