PC Graphics

[zophiasdad]

Hello, I am interested in purchasing one possibly two of your new Radeon VII GPU’s. According to the information released by AMD following CES this GPU was to release on February 7 2019. I requested notification as to when they would be available for sale on the web page for the Radeon VII. Well it is now February 7^th and I have yet to hear anything and when doing searches a few minutes ago I can find no information about this. I can only assume one of two possibilities, since it is now February 7^th it will be available for sale at some future date that AMD does not even know or this GPU is vaporware. Which is it?

[black_zion]

There, $700, go buy all you want. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202330

[pokester]

Shows out of stock. Someone must have bought all they want. If I am remembering correctly, when they announced that GPU wasn't it going to be produced in limited numbers to begin with?

[black_zion]

5000 units worldwide, but they didn't say all the units would be in store inventories at the time. Still, given the poor reviews, it shouldn't be out of stock long.

[sakuramichitsuki]

i think Certainly not only 5000
This does not match the logic of normal GPU production

[pokester]

I believe the CEO said this at the product announcement. I'm sure the CEO doesn't know what she is doing in her company.

[black_zion]

Because the Radeon VII isn't a "normal" GPU, it's a rebranded Radeon Instinct M50 as a stopgap measure to give AMD at least a presence at the high end until Navi.

[hardcoregames_]

Still sold out

[black_zion]

So buy an RTX 2080, it's cheaper, quieter, more efficient, and faster.

[hardcoregames_]

I have a GTX 1060 so it is adequate for 1920x1080 gaming

been looking at Polaris 30 cards which are way down in value now

[pokester]

Yup I have a 1060 gb and an RX580 both trade blows at 1080p nearly equally with the occasional game title going more one way than the other. Now at 1440p that is another story and one I think Nvidia is shooting themselves in the foot on with the choice to stay with only 6gb on the RTX 2060. My RX 580 does much better than the GTX 1060 in the more demanding AAA titles at 1440p and I absolutely think it is the extra 2gbs of memory making the difference. On the 1060 I have to turn down quality settings and anti-aliasing to get to the same performance. So I would consider an RTX 2060 but already have seen benchmarks showing it is being crippled by less memory at 1440p too! It's a shame as the GPU is way faster. Hoping they make a Ti version with 8gb or for Navi to have a great alternative for 1440p.

[pokester]

And supports FreeSync too!

[black_zion]

To be honest the VII is faster...at 8K in 3DMark and 4K Uniengine Superposition, though it's due to the VRAM amount rather than being a faster card.

[black_zion]

Plenty in stock on Overclockers.co.uk, and it makes a lot more sense to buy one over there where the RTX 2080 is just insane.

[pokester]

doesn't surpise me. Same thing I noticed between 1060 and 580. 

[hardcoregames_]

I would like it if I could find a single fan version of the RX 580 like my GTX 1060 has

[black_zion]

Not hard to find.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137244

[hardcoregames_]

price went up to $220

[pokester]

You can get the blower types but the don't cool as well and are as loud a jet engine. The 1060s run way cooler. Mine is a single fan model.

[hardcoregames_]

I have the EVGA GTX 1060 and it runs cool too

[pokester]

Mine is the Zotac, 2nd Zotac I have had. Nice cards and little cheaper than the others. 

[hardcoregames_]

pokester wrote:

Mine is the Zotac, 2nd Zotac I have had. Nice cards and little cheaper than the others. 

After the 196.75 fiasco my opinion of Zotac is down there with Trump et al

[pokester]

I'm not familiar with that fiasco. My 2 cards have been rock solid.

[hardcoregames_]

VIDEO CARD OVERHEATING | HARDCORE GAMES™ 

my Zotac 8600 GT was trashed by 196.75 and I have lots of photos to prove it

[pokester]

Not familiar with an issue, never challenged that you had an issue so no need to be defensive. Have no idea what 196.75 is?  Sorry you had an issue. Hopefully by the the time they got to the 10 series cards they got better at it. My first ones, one is a little over a year old the other is about 4 months now.

[hardcoregames_]

Back when 196.75 was an issue in 2010 I was forced to spend more than double my expected budget for hardware. Video cards and motherboards are expensive.

I was able to find a GTX 260 which solved the gaming problems but I had to get a better power supply as that card was a real power pig. I ended up buying a Corsair TX850V2 to handle it. I wnded up with 2 GTX 260 cards so the 850W PSU was able to handle that easily and gaming was a lot better.

Now I have a AX860i which is 80 Plus platinum and just as powerful. The modular cables now are much easier to manage.

Now a single GTX 1060 is markedly more power than the GTX 260 SLI. It also uses far less power.

[pokester]

Sorry  or  Awesome not sure what to say, still have no idea what your talking about or what 196.75 is, or why you seem to be making a case against what I said? I'm lost. 

[hardcoregames_]

196.75 had a defective fan profile that locks the video card fans at 30% no matter the temperature

[pokester]

Oh, is that a driver version, this 196.75? Until this last year I hadn't had an nVidia card in nearly 20 years, AMD had been great.

[hardcoregames_]

196.75 WHQL | HARDCORE GAMES™ 

my page on that driver has been a sore spot in my shop for a long time

while a RX 470 acquisition did not pan out, my old HD 7870 still works

my power pig champ the HD 6970 still can play any game in sight, but the HD 7870 can do that with 1/2 the power needed

[pokester]

My 7870  is still running great too. Great card and overclocks like a champ. Mine is an XFX and they added a second power port and this really makes it stable overclocking. It's darn near as fast as my HD 7950 at stock, but that 7950 overclocks to near 7970 speed. 

[hardcoregames_]

pokester wrote:

My 7870  is still running great too. Great card and overclocks like a champ. Mine is an XFX and they added a second power port and this really makes it stable overclocking. It's darn near as fast as my HD 7950 at stock, but that 7950 overclocks to near 7970 speed. 

Raderon has been popular with the overclocking enthusiasts. My Asus HD 7870 has a dual fan cooler and I could crank the card up to 1200 MHz and it is stable That is a lot of room for improvement.

The card does not even warm up much overclocked aggressively with games. Definitely eye opening. .

[hardcoregames_]

Certainly not in my rig......

NewEgg is sold out