PC Drivers & Software

[PHYZE]

My setup: Ryzen 9 5900x, RX 6800, 4x 8GB 3600Mhz irdm pro, aorus x570 master. Im playing on 1080p - MSI Optix G27C2 144hz

Yesterday I changed CPU from ryzen 7 3700x and performance got worse (of course after the CPU changed i turned on SAM). In almost every game fps dropping to 40-50.

For example in PUBG on ultra settings my fps used to drop to 40. I thought its about graphic settings and I changed settings to high, then to medium. It happened on every graphic setting, even on low.

When I was playing Medieval Dynasty on ultra settings my 1% low was 23 fps which is disgusting. 

What should I do with this? Any ideas?

[DRDOS]

Such issue might be caused by overheating that triggers a CPU's overheating protection systems which therefore reduce the performance in order to prevent exceeding the temperature beyond the acceptable range.

[ThunderBeaver]

I agree with DRDOS.

What are you using for CPU cooler?

What are your idle vs load temps on your CPU and VPU?

The RX 5000 series CPU's require really beefy cooling hardware. Talking about the upper end Cooler Master Thermaltake MSI Noctua Zalman CPU coolers that often weigh close to 2Lbs or .9 kilograms.

With those CPU's I recommend 4 to 6 heat pipe  models with dual 120 135 or 140mm fans.

I'm running a Ryzen 7 2700x CPU at 4.2Ghz with an MSI FROZR L dual 120mm 4 heat pipe cooler and my idle temps are in the upper 20's low 30's and load temps are in mid 40's to 51C. 

AMD CPU's are optimized for overclocking and the higher end high wattage CPU's produce a lot of heat. You gotta have a large tower and great airflow for AMD Gaming rigs.

[PHYZE]

Im using Fractal Design Celsius S36, case: be quiet 601.

CPU idle temps: around 40C

CPU in stress mode by cpu-z: around 70C 

CPU while playing: 63C

GPU temps while playing around: 60C 

[ThunderBeaver]

Ok thats well within tolerance zones of good thermal management.

Have you updated your MOBO Chipset drivers?

Check for BIOS updates that specify your generation of CPU.

Try a CMOS or Ram Clear.

Clear all windows update cache.

Check for old restore points that predate your current hardware upgrades delete them and create new restore points.

Command Prompt as admin run sfc/ scannow to find and fix any corrupted or missing OS files.

Check windows update for pending .Net Framework updates.

Reduce resolution settings and set a 60Hz refresh rate and test your system on that.

Ensure your BIOS Windows and Adrenaline are all set to high performance mode.

Check for Group Policy Editors for your OS and the problem you are having especially researching any error codes generated.

I've had to use about 6 Group Policy Editors on Windows 10 Pro 64 in the last 2 years to block windows updates that were actually causing harm to my system.

I'm not talking about the standard security updates and other necessary updates for the OS but updates for unneeded software like onedrive cloud cortana telemetry services and the only way to block Microsoft from overwriting AMD display/audio drivers with their outdated drivers.

You may also want to run a Command Prompt admin CHKDSK C:/r for a fast check disk of your storage devices for any errors.  

[enerwe]

You've change the cpu from 3700x to 5900x right.

Reason why old games can struggle with fps is

The game use only one core and it can happend that the architecture of ryzen with 2 ccd and the mainthread being pushed through all cores

This is a windows problem with hardware sheduler solution is the game .exe fixing on specific core on one ccd

Tools like  Process Lasso helps with that

Pin one core of the game to one cpu thread with smt in fact 2 threads.

Microsoft has fixing this with a patch sometimes 2019 for ryzen first gen secound gen and third gen but not for fourth gen.

Only even numbers are cores

[DRDOS]

I've never heard of Ryzen 5000 series 2 CCD design Processors having this kind of multi-threading issue. Is there any source that proves this info?
I've seen this issue with all Intel's processors in past, but even then a performance degradation wasn't that much to reduce a frame rate in games so significantly. IIRC, in worst case setting a single core affinity for a single threaded process could increase its performance only up to 15-20%, not more.

By the way, Ryzen 5000 series Processors have higher single core performance than Ryzen 3000 series Processors, which means with Ryzen 9 5900X, theoretically, you should have better performance in old games, because usually (for many old games, which are single-threaded) a "bottleneck" in this case is a single core performance.

[PHYZE · Accepted solution]

Finally I found fix for this. I changed Radeon Anti-Lag from ON to OFF and games looks way better. 

Its not still the performance level what I wanted but I can play games without fps stuttering. 

I have 60hz refresh, Im using 144hz in games like csgo, r6s etc. 

I have F34 version of bios (aorus x570 master). Theres F35 version with updated AGESA ComboV2 from 1.2.0.3 to 1.2.0.5. Will this change much?

Ill try to use process lasso