5 Replies Latest reply on Sep 20, 2018 6:56 AM by mnuikka

    Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode

    mnuikka

      Does Amd Radeon pro wx 7100 support stereo view in windowed mode? I'm using ArcGIS 10.4 (Win10, 64 bit) and can't figure out how to get the stereoview work.

      It works in Stereoscopic player but only in full screen mode.

        • Re: Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode
          elstaci

          Never heard of ArcGIS software before. So excuse my ignorance with the information I posted below:

           

          What I do know the WX 7100 has more than enough minimum requirements for running ArcGIS software. The only thing I don't know is if it has 24 bit capable Graphics accelerator:

           

          Graphics Features

           

          DirectX
          12.0 (12_0)
          OpenGL
          4.5
          OpenCL
          2.0
          Vulkan
          1.1.78
          Shader Model
          6.0

          This is ArcGIS Pro Graphic GPU minimum requirements: ArcGIS 10.4.x for Desktop system requirements—ArcGIS Help | ArcGIS Desktop

           

          Video/Graphics adapter

          64 MB RAM minimum; 256 MB RAM or higher recommended. NVIDIA, ATI, and Intel chipsets supported.

          24-bit capable graphics accelerator

          OpenGL version 2.0 runtime minimum is required, and Shader Model 3.0 or higher is recommended.

          Be sure to use the latest available drivers.

           

          Are you using ArcGIS Pro ?

           

          Are talking about Stereo view in Window Mode using Stereoscopic Player or are you talking about Stereo view using Stereo Mapping that uses special glasses in ArcGIS software (Stereo mapping in ArcGIS Pro—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop )?

           

          This is from ArcGIS Pro link from above:

           

          Now you can start your stereo workflow.

          Shutter glass requirements

          The following requirements are needed to use active shutter eyewear with stereo mapping:

          • Your operating system must be Windows 8.1 or later.
          • Your monitor screen refresh rate is at least 120 Hertz.
          • Your NVIDIA graphic settings have stereoscopic 3D capabilities enabled.
          Note:

          Only NVIDIA graphics cards support shutter eyewear for ArcGIS Pro.You can enable your NVIDIA stereoscopic 3D settings from the NVIDIA Control Panel as follows:

          1. Open the NVIDIA Control Panel.
          2. Expand the Stereoscopic 3D section.
          3. Click Set up stereoscopic 3D.
          4. Check the Enable stereoscopic 3D check box.
          Note:

          Not all NVIDIA graphics cards support stereoscopic 3D capabilities.

           

          This is from Stereoscopic Player website concerning it features on viewing: 3dtv.at - Stereoscopic Player Features

          Supported stereo layouts

          • Monoscopic
          • Interlaced (Field-Sequential)
          • Side by Side
          • Over/Under
          • Frame-Sequential
          • Multi-View (Tiled)
          • 2D+Depth
          • SENSIO® Hi-Fi 3D
          • SIS Attachment

          The above layouts rotated by 90° are also supported. In addition, Stereoscopic Player supports separate files for left and right view and optionally for the soundtrack.

          Supported viewing methods

          • Source
          • Monoscopic
          • Blended
          • Picture in Picture
          • Dual Screen Output
          • StereoBright™ 2
          • NVIDIA 3D Vision
          • AMD HD3D (requires Windows Vista or better)
          • Intel Stereo Driver (requires Windows 7 or better)
          • Quad Buffered DirectX (requires Windows 8 or better)
          • Quad Buffered OpenGL 3
          • Sharp 3D Display
          • 3D Enabled DLP-TV
          • Tridelity SL Series 3D Displays
          • Tridelity MV Series 3D-Displays
          • Generic Single-Viewer Displays
          • Generic Multi-Viewer Displays
          • Oculus Rift (headtracking is not supported yet)
          • SIS Attachment 4
          • Side by Side
          • Side by Side for 3D-TVs
          • Over/Under
          • Over/Under for 3D-TVs
          • Row Interlaced
          • Column Interlaced
          • True Anaglyph Red - Blue
          • True Anaglyph Red - Green
          • Gray Anaglyph Red - Cyan
          • Gray Anaglyph Yellow - Blue
          • Gray Anaglyph Green - Magenta
          • Half Color Anaglyph Red - Cyan
          • Half Color Anaglyph Yellow - Blue
          • Half Color Anaglyph Green - Magenta
          • Color Anaglyph Red - Cyan
          • Color Anaglyph Yellow - Blue
          • Color Anaglyph Green - Magenta
          • Optimized Anaglyph Red - Cyan
          • Optimized Anaglyph Yellow - Blue
          • Optimized Anaglyph Green - Magenta

           

           

            • Re: Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode
              mnuikka

              Hi,

               

              Thank you for your reply elstaci!

               

              I am using ArcGis Desktop 10.4. for stereo mapping

              My monitor is Pluraview - Beam Splitter which is used with passive stereoglasses.

              I also have an older Planar monitor which uses the same technique. It works fine with Nvidia graphics card.

               

              With the Stereoscopic Player I have used viewing method Quad Buffered OpenGL and its shows the stereo videos but only in full screen mode when using the AMD card.

              With Nvidia both full screen and window mode works fine.

               

              Then I found this information:

              "AMD - All consumer Radeon series gaming cards - Recent Radeon R7 and R9 cards do support quad buffereOpenGLGL stereo in Full-Screen mode only but do not work in windowed stereo modes. All of zSpace's education applications and most of our partner applications operate in Full-Screen mode as it is the preferred Stereo experience"

              https://support.zspace.com/hc/en-us/articles/204780645-zSpace-Supported-Graphics-Cards-GPUs-

               

              Now I'm unsure if this means that my AMD card doesn't support the windowed mode at all? Or could there still be a possibility that it could work with ArcGIS?

              I can't use the ArcGIS in full screen mode.

                • Re: Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode
                  elstaci

                  The best person to answer this question is fsadough who is the expert on Professional GPU Cards here at AMD Forums.

                   

                  If he doesn't have a chance to answer try opening an AMD EMAIL SUPPORT TICKET from here : Email Form .

                   

                  You can also try and open a Post here at AMD OPENGL & VULCAN Forum. Someone there may be able to answer your question: OpenGL & Vulkan

                   

                  That link was interesting, by according to zSpace, it mentioned only that it applies to Consumer Radeon GPU cards. Didn't mention anything about Professional GPU cards which is what you have.

                   

                  It is possible your GPU card might work in Windowed mode but it is the AMD Driver which may not support it. Just guessing. Someone from AMD Support will need to advice you on this matter.

                   

                  I saw that no one had replied so I figure I take a stab at it.

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              • Re: Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode
                fsadough

                If you are running Win 10 1803, this is a known issue and we are working on it. Meanwhile you can revert back to version Win 10 1709 and it should work in windowed mode [DirectX]

                 

                https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Pro-Software-Enterprise-Edition-18.Q2-Release-Notes.aspx

                 

                Known Issues

                • User may encounter Radeon Software branding and red taskbar icon in professional mode when at least one Radeon Software for Radeon Pro gaming driver is installed.
                • Display issues may be observed while running Nuke benchmark on AMD FirePro™ W8100 and AMD FirePro™ W9100.
                • User may encounter issues with auto and passive Stereo with Windows 10 April 2018 Update.
                • Intermittent display difficulties with certain models in Siemens® Femap™ with Radeon™ Pro WX 9100.
                • User may encounter display difficulties with geometry shader in MAXON Cinema4D™.
                • System may experience hangs on Windows 7 mobile platforms after driver installation with Radeon™ Pro WX 7100.
                • Minor corruption may be seen on model with anti-aliasing modes in Dassault Systèmes ICEMSurf.
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                  • Re: Radeon pro wx 7100 in windowed mode
                    mnuikka

                    It's good to know that this is a known issue and it is being worked on!

                     

                    I didn't revert the Windows version but the stereo view is currently working in windowed mode.

                    It seems that in our case the Stereoscopic player somehow messes up the stereo view in ArcGIS.

                    If the Stereoscopic player is shut down normally (X or File->Exit), the stereo view in ArcGIS will not work until the compurter is shut down and started again using power button. Restart will not work.

                    If the Sterescopic player is killed using task manager the stereo view in ArcGIS will work.

                    Sounds strange but this is how it seems to be.

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