14 Replies Latest reply on Jan 30, 2018 6:43 PM by danerockman

    R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p

    danerockman

      Hey Everyone,

       

      Recently I built a new rig (and used my previous R9 390 Graphics Card).

       

      New System is:

       

      -Asus TUF 270 mk.2 Motherboard

      -16 GB Ram

      - Windows 10

      - Kaby Lake i7-7700k Processor

      - Xfx R9 390 (8GB) Graphics Card

       

      My Problem is, on my old rig (old Asus with AMD A8-5500 Processor), I could play games and watch youtube at 720p and the fans would RARELY kick on.....  Not sure I ever really heard them unless I opened the case...  On this new unit, I get the fans kicking on on my R9 watching youtube in 240p and 360p....

       

      Any thoughts?  If I can't get it figured out, I may go over to an GTX 1070 card, but I don't want to go off my R9 if it's an issue I can address somehow....  Let me know if anyone has any helpful info...  I'm not the most computer knowledgeable person so if I left out any useful info, let me know....

        • Re: R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p
          benman2785

          do you have enough Case-Fans installed?
          did you use correct (or working) Fanspeed-settings in Wattman or Afterburner?

           

          btw - have in mind that your CPU is VERY hot - and if your CPU-cooler isnt pulling the hot air out and your case is small it will heat up pretty fast - so that when the GPU has some load it will need to spin the fans
          but that usually only happens in mitx setups

            • Re: R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p
              danerockman

              Airflow is fine, and processor is cool...

               

              Two intake case fans, and 1 exhaust.  My i7-7700k is running at 34 -

              35 °C (Max is about 48°C)...

               

              When I close all programs and just leave my PC idle for a while with

              nothing moving on the screen, after time the GPU drops down and idles

              at about 45 - 50°C.

               

              The moment I load anything the temp starts to climb pretty fast

              (wacthing a 360p video the temp climbs about 1° every 2 sec of so)

              Fans kick on and work like they should in Afterburner (doesn't

              overheat thankfully)...

               

              From that regard I don't really have a "problem", but on the last rig,

              these fans would only kick on while gaming..  Now they kick on while

              doing just about anything but idle.  Its annoying for them to kick on

              every 2 - 4 minutes for 30 sec. just watching a low res youtube

              video...  I only ask because I used this card for months on the old

              rig with this never happening that I can remember...  Is this just

              something I have to get used to?

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                  benman2785

                  pls clean your GPU-cooler
                  also considereing buying thermal-compound (non conductive - specially for GPUs) - because yours could be sticky/solid/bad by now

                   

                  is your YT video in 4k? do you have 2 screens? does your browser still use HW-decoder?

                    • Re: R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p
                      danerockman

                      Recently airgunned out the GPU (did not disassemble).

                       

                      Running Youtube in 360p resolution (my internet connection sucks and

                      480p videos have buffing breaks, so I tend to watch most everything in

                      360p...    )

                       

                      How would I check to see if I am using the HW-decoder?  My Browser is

                      an up to date version of Firefox....

                       

                      (Thanks for you help and suggestions on this, btw).

                      David DeArmond

                      Calibration Manager

                      Magwerks Corp.

                      501 Commerce. Dr,

                      Danville, IN 46122

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                  benman2785

                  google: "firefox enable hw acceleration" or click this link

                   

                  make sure you use HTML5 Player and not FlashPlayer (so uninstall Flash)

                   

                  what temp does your GPU have while gaming?

                    • Re: R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p
                      danerockman

                      I will do so when I get back home, and let you know what I find...

                       

                      For gaming, typically it will start off with a GPU temp of about 45 -

                      50°C (idle temp) and once the game starts with moving images on the

                      screen, the temp climbs at about 1° every sec or two (just like with

                      low res youtube vids) and climb until about 85°C (where I have my MSI

                      Afterburner set to kick on the fans at 100%), then fans kick on like

                      they should and heat will drop back to about 45 - 50°C then start the

                      cycle all over again....  Fans cycle every couple minutes...

                       

                      (Note: I have afterburner set with a fan curve of fans @ 65% from 35°

                      - 70°C, then it rams to 80% fans from 71° - 85°, then 100% fans

                      from 85° - MAX) - _not sure if this info helps as all, but here it is

                      anyway...._

                       

                      I know this is within AMD's stated usage range for the card (with

                      94°C being temp. max), so in that regard it seems to be fine, but my

                      main concern is with low res youtube videos and how quick the temp

                      climbs with just simple low res video running....

                       

                      My computer is hooked up to a 1080p 3D TV, so I never have a res.

                      better than 1080p (I play most things in 1600 x 900 for better

                      frames), but this quick heating and cooling cycle is happening with

                      360p youtube videos (just like with higher res games)....  My issue is

                      all about how this fan cycling never really happened on the last

                      system UNLESS I was playing games....  Now I get it pretty much

                      anytime the screen has moving images....

                       

                      I don't know if this is just the way it's going to be from now on, or

                      if something is going (gone) wrong....

                       

                      (All drivers are up to date)

                      David DeArmond

                      Calibration Manager

                      Magwerks Corp.

                      501 Commerce. Dr,

                      Danville, IN 46122

                      Phone: 317.241.8011 xt:106

                      Fax: 317.241.8015

                       

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                      benman2785

                      repeat MSI Afterburner fan-settings: 65% fanspeed between 35°C-70°C?
                      that is your problem - your GPU bios would start fans usually at 50-55°C if it supports fan-stop

                       

                      0°C-55°C = 0-25% fanspeed (25% should be inaudible)
                      55°C-75°C = 66% fanspeed
                      75-83°C = 85% fanspeed
                      +83°C = 100% fanspeed

                       

                      or you could uninstall MSI Afterburner and let your GPU bios do the trick

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                          danerockman

                          I was using the card's default settings before I installed

                          Afterburner...  This was happening before Afterburner and when I made

                          the custom curve with more extreme fan settings... 

                           

                          The only real difference was that the card ran a hotter avg. temp.

                          while idling.  I extended the 65% fan speed to lower temps to help

                          increase the amount of time it takes for the GPU to heat back up

                          again...

                           

                          Since below about 70% the fans are mostly silent, I just put them to

                          65% from at all temps below 70°C (I'd rather them run than not if

                          they are mostly silent...) in hopes that again, it would buy some more

                          time between "cooling cycles".

                           

                          It's just getting annoying to listen to the fans cycle every few

                          minutes when I never really had to before....

                           

                          (again, thanks for your help and suggestions)

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                          benman2785

                          so its still your thermal compound or your airflow
                          it is highly unlikely a driver problem

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                              danerockman

                              It's definitely not an airflow problem.  I can take the case sides off

                              and nothing changes (besides it being louder)....

                               

                              Plenty of room and fans...  I'm not sure how the Thermal compound

                              would be the problem, since it wasn't a problem in the last PC case

                              (which by the way, had even less airflow), but I will take apart

                              tonight, and re-apply new Thermal and let you know what (if anything)

                              it does....  I don't suspect it will do much, but I guess since I

                              can't think of anything else, it's worth a shot.....

                               

                              I agree, I don't think it's a driver issue now...  Over the weekend I

                              updated to the newest drivers and NOTHING changed in regards to this

                              issue.

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                                danerockman

                                Okay....  

                                 

                                While I appreciate your advice, I think I am just at a dead end...

                                 

                                Pulled the card apart, and the thermal paste was fine...  Cleaned it

                                off and replaced it with fresh, no difference.

                                 

                                Put some passive heatsinks on the backplate and it's buying me a few

                                extra minutes per fan cycle.  I guess I will have to tolerate this

                                noisy card until I get a new card... 

                                 

                                I use this PC strictly for Youtube and Gaming (+VR), I don't do any

                                "data mining"...  Any Suggestions on a solid and reasonably priced

                                card?  I have a 850W power supply, so I can power most single cards

                                without issue...  Will that power a RX Vega 56?  I see that card looks

                                to be pretty nice, and I can choke down $400 if it's a solid card that

                                will last with some growth room....  Thoughts?

                              • Re: R9 390 Fans Kicking on watching Youtube in 360p
                                benman2785

                                dane - you can try a clean win10 install with latest drivers

                                but i think dont think it is a software problem - maybe also try a different browser

                                btw opening the case can increase heat compared to a good airflow in the case