7 Replies Latest reply on Dec 13, 2017 5:51 PM by colesdav

    Troubleshooting Wattman Settings and Missing textures/reflections with drivers 17.x

    falita

      Problems:

      1. Wattman or any other OC tool resets to default values (voltage, gpu clocks, fan speeds, etc) if some conditions are met.

      2. Missing textures or reflections, filters etc... tested on GTA V only i should assume that this is happening with other titles as well and people doesn't realice of this yet, i mean is dificult to notice if effects are working or not, like going in some game from mid setting to ultra and "hey... is the same!" maybe the driver is in fault here.

       

      Hardware:

      XFX RX 480 RS 8GB D5 1288Mhz XXX HS

      Part No.: RX-480P8LFB6

       

      CPU: i7 2600k @4.5Ghz

      RAM: 16GB DDR3 (2x8GB)

      Mother: Asrock Z77 extreme 4

      PSU: Seasonic 850w 80Plus Bronze

      Monitor: 1080p display using HDMI at 60hz

       

      Solutions:

      Now is time to choose your poison:

      - Do you want the card to keep the settings saved and loose the fixes and performance for new titles?

      - Do you want newer drivers for fixes and performance gain in some titles at the cost of missing textures and visual effects that may or not be working and you can't see it?.

       

      I have tested this drivers:

       

      Driver    |    Behaviour

      17.11.4   > Fix wattman > textures and effect missing

      17.10.3  > Fix wattman > textures and effect missing

      17.9.1    > WattMan doesn't save settings (or any other oc tool)

      17.8.2    > WattMan doesn't save settings (or any other oc tool)

      17.7.2    > WattMan doesn't save settings (or any other oc tool)

      17.6.2    > OK

       

      Test Methodoly:

      Clean OS W10 x64 updated.

      Unnistall normally

      Reboot on safe mode

      Run Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) v17.0.7.9

      Run AMD Cleanup Utility

      Reboot to normal

      Install driver

      Reboot

      Test

       

      1. Wattman and settings and why is important a fix to this issue:

      As many people know by default the card work at a high voltage and because of the restriction in power delivery of 150w the card can trottle the core clock, this behaviour gave me some stuttering issues in some games or performance hits in some parts, soo keeping this card on lower voltages allow for a constant and non variable core clock during any game, keeping the card more cooled, less noise, more performance.

       

      Now, some people clame that x driver or x driver save the settings after a restart and are happy, BUT... im sure if you test the card with a tool other than a benchmark or game you can trigger the reset without knowing, even wattman or the oc tool will show you your custom settings and make you think they are working until you check with an app like GPU-Z and see the true values.

       

      For me the trigger in all the drivers is Photoshop and video decoding/encoding, even youtube can trigger the reset.

       

      Here you can see my undervolt and the tools using for testing (idle):

      By default the stage 7 is 1150mv (1.15v), im using 1080mv (1.08v)

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/8b67c7676067843

       

      Now running furmark a few seconds to see if the settings is applied, also the games (KF2 and GTA V report the same volage):

      Setting applied, vcore 1.06v - 1.08v (gaming)

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/cd590d676067903

       

      Now just running Photoshop with hardware acceleration ON.

      Look at the VDDC on GPU-Z, settings ignored and back to default.

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/52f8e5676084923

       

      Lets test again Furmark to see what happens now:

      Wattman shows my custom values but they are no longer working.

      1.13v (default 1150mv)

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/a31d2a676067963

       

      This is how photohop appear with the fixed wattman (17.6.2 and 17.10.3/newer)

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/766d40676068043

       

      After gaming with the Wattman fixed drivers:

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/66140d676072883

       

       

      You can put this settings and run games, reboot and do anything you want, but as soon as you trigger the reset you have to enter wattman, reset, apply, put the custom value again, apply, for me at least is video acceleration, because it happens when i open youtube or the browser use the hw aceleration and photoshop or any app that uses that function.

       

       

       

      2. Textures missing (for some people) and effects not showing in-game.

       

      I'm going to use GTA V for this example since is the most easy to check:

       

      Graphics Ultra and very High without AA only FX

      1080p and 60hz with vsync

      DX11 mode.

       

      Drivers from  17.9.x (working) and older:

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/53f16b676068073

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/a4f648676068153

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/b188b2676068213

       

      Drivers from 17.10.x and newer

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/1ccde3676070783

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/5b4d9e676070803

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/bfb4a9676070833

       

      Missing reflections on the door and a little different color in general.

      Now, check the cars, they all seem to be Mate color and again missing reflections:

       

      Good:

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/d288d3676068273

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/27e1a0676068313

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/2686b7676068363

       

      Bad:

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/275aec676070693

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/648f67676070703

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/724838676070713

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/4677e8676070723

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/6fa551676070743

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/e712ca676070763

      http://www.imagebam.com/image/1c4aea676070773

       

      I hope this works to fix this damn issue.