Everything leads to 1080 ti Leading by 6722 while amd trails at 5327
perf per watt 164 percent for 1080 ti vs vega trailing at 134 percent. 1080 ti winning .
1080 ti is champion at 650
vega 64 for 799 is overpriced and underachiever for 800 lowered performance
1080 ti for 150 less and more performance clear winner here
Before you go and blame AMD for being incompetent, better do some basic research. While nVidia may have a higher effective memory clock, 11008mhz vs 1890mhz, AMD's HBM2 uses a 2048 bit bus whereas nVidia uses a 352 bit bus, resulting in an effectively equal memory bandwidth, 0.6mhz difference.
AMD just incompetent and unwilliness to reply back since I posted is a clear enough statement . With all there locking my content out sure noted . Amd has not made a reasonable comment or statement just continually removing me off there forums . I made a fact to show the end results . So that is y this remains open topic.
first you are comparing two very different things the nvidia card and the amd card are aimed at different targets amd for the price of 1 1080 ti you can almost buy 2 vegas so for the comparison to be fair you would need to run 2 vegas to get a dollar for dollar test and the cell structures between nvidia and amd are quiet different so it is hard to configure a test that is not going to favor one over the other in the details so if you look a little more evenly at what the strengths and weaknesses are in both cards you will find that the vega does a lot more than half of what a 1080 ti will do at just a little more than half the price.
You can get a 1080 Ti for $939 right now. Meanwhile, the cheapest Vega 64 I can find is $799.
Maybe you have read the forum rules and what these forums are for? If you are expecting AMD to respond to you here, it could happen as a few guys from AMD do stop in, but it is not their job they are users here like you an me. These are community forums, the support on these boards, is the support of fellow users that may already have answers to common problems. If you are looking for AMD to engage with you in problems, then you need to open a support ticket. I understand this is not very clear for a newcomer and certainly fault AMD for that not being more clear, we see it all the time. I just don't want you to miss out on help you never really asked for, but clearly think you did. Please open a support ticket here: Email Form
Now from the road maps that are out right now we are looking at a year or two before they have a real 1080 ti competitor. By then Nvidia will also have long had a new line out so no knowing where that leaves things.
Realistically AMD has never been one to try and cater to the bleeding edge of performance on any of there products. I think they have been pretty happy when it has worked out in the past the HD 4xxx series and HD 7xxx in recent history were darn strong competitors. But the truth is that nobody is making much money off the the highest end enthusiast parts. They make the money off what sells in volume. Yes it would be great to have a full line of competitive cards, but not having that doesn't IMHO make them incompetent. I would also add that AMD cards typically get better and better as they age performance wise as driver mature. So their longevity has often been better than the green team, allowing many to skip a generation or two of cards. Apparently the game console makers are pretty happy with the competence level of AMD too.
So I get that you opinion differs and you personally feel disappointed that the latest flag ship product isn't on top, mind you it's not that far behind, and will likely improve greatly as real direct x 12 and Vulcan engines begin to saturate the market finally. Unwilling, nope I am pretty sure they are willing to make chips and that this hasn't been an exercise in futility and definitely couldn't call it incompetent either. Honest a lot of what makes the green team look good and what kills AMD is that AMD often tries to innovate too much and has driver and products that just aren't ready for prime time. I think this last couple of cycles have been exactly that, I also think they know this and will do much better with Navi. Don't hate on AMD too much, without them Intel and Nvidia have no competition meaning high prices and no innovation required.
for 650 my 1080 ti leads the march when it comes to performance . Vega 64 is not as powerful chip. Not worth the 799 price tag. The power under the hood top performer is 1080 ti when comes to price . Amd and nvidia are always want to dominate . I saved over year to buy one and 1080 ti was a no brainer cause Ive seen tons of benchmarks comparing both amd is maybe a 10 percent lower in games while 1080 ti leads .
AMD WILL HAVE TO POUR MY red blood . And there is a war between them rivalary alot amd and nvidia have battled in courts . But if amd continue the bloody red amd will get to be in my case next year to rule the cpu market I await them to leap frog over all these chip makers with there new 7nm foundry . Im hoping to find a good single core cpu by them . Yet amd still needs to stop whistling there violins.
An d yes that was a great reply Bloody red.
"vega 64 for 799 is overpriced"
Good thing it doesn't cost that much.
Are you comparing current 1080ti pricing to older Vega pricing? I count 7 Vega 64's on Newegg for under $600. Just looked at 1080ti and cheapest is $733. Not sure where you are getting your prices. I won't deny a bit that the 1080ti is currently faster, but the Vega really is no slouch. Current pricing certainly is a bigger discount that the performance deficit too IMHO, however driver issues is another issue. If (big if) they get the driver issues settled and history repeats itself it will be better performance over the next couple of years too. I highly expect that as the DX12 games really begin to hit, that it will truly begin to show it's worth. Heck have you seen the Battlefield V alpha benchmarks so far 1060 6gb vs the RX 580 at 1080 and 1440? The RX 580 is destroying the 1060, and it's a Nvidia sponsored game. The RX 580 has easily seen a 25% performance boost over it's original incarnation of the RX 480. Regardless neither of the companies are responsible for the inflated pricing. Talk to the miners and retailers about that. I too would have a tough time buying a Vega over the Green teams equivalent at the moment but like for the facts to be exactly that, facts, removing the emotion from it all. Good luck whatever path you go.
got the 1080 ti on sale on amazon for 650 .
That is a great price! I scored a 1060 6gb for 199 last week and was pretty happy with that.
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