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Relive not working in Doom with OpenGL/Vulkan RX480

Question asked by etayorius on May 31, 2017
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I can't seem to be able to use my GPU to encode video, there seems to be no option to use the GPU... I don't see any option to enable the gpu in handbrake, Anything related to using the GPU for hardware encoding with the RX480 it just not working. I`m using Handbrake 1.0.7

I got a second issue of not being able to Record using Relive on Doom not even on OpenGL.. nothing happends when i click the shortcut to start recording and i seen other people videos in youtube and they seem to be able to use relive with Doom, but nothing i do works.

I'm trying to record some Deathmatch rounds, so i had to use bandicam to record because relive just refuses to work on Doom... but in Bandicam there is no option to enable HEVC or AMD App. Starting to think this is an issue with the RX480 itself.

Win7 x64 SP1

Crimson Relive 17.5.2

Core i5 6500

XFX Refference RX480 8GB

8GB DDR4 2133

Speler HDTV 21" on HDMI1

Maybe the issue is HDMI or something related to me using a TV instead of a monitor?

etayorius Jun 1, 2017 11:33 AM

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I just started using "D3DGear" recording software, it works with basically any API, DX9, DX10, DX11, DX12, MANTLE, Vulkan and OpenGL.

Relive is good, but my take is that it has no support for OpenGL and Vulkan, otherwise it would work with Doom. It needs to be updated to support such APIs.

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kahless_uk May 31, 2017 10:47 AM

Handbrake currently doesn't support hardware encoding except for Intel Quicksync if you have a newer i5 or i7 (Skylake and up).

All you can do is enable OpenCL lookahead in H264 encodes by adding the command opencl=1 but it's almost pointless as it only gives you about 2% more speed while forcing GPU clocks to 100%

To use hardware you need a different application that supports AMD VCE.

As for ReLive with Doom I believe they fixed that a few driver versions back (at least for Vulkan)

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etayorius @ kahless_uk on May 31, 2017 2:11 PM

Oh ok i though it should be working with Handbrake... in regards to Relive and Doom, nothing happens when i click record, other games work fine even super old DX9 games or newer ones like GTA5, GTA4, Xenoverse and SkyrimSE are getting recorded with Relive, it`s just Doom that is not working.

Is there some sort of setting i need to enable in relive to force Relive to record in Doom? i tried enabling "Record desktop" and it only records the desktop and not actually the game... it's driving me nuts. I tried borderless mode and OpenGL and not working, tried window mode and OpenGL... still not working, Borderless/Window with Vulkan and nothing happens... is just not recording anything at all when pressing "Ctrl+Shift+R". If i alt tab very quick after hitting the shortcut keys i can see some sort of error message very briefly but i can't read it because it flashes out very fast.

I can't even bring up the Toolbar in game, i think Relive does not support hooking into Vulkan/OpenGL.

I been trying a bunch of drivers, from the very first Relive to latest 17.5.2 and none of them is working. Can anyone confirm to being able to record doom at all with relive?

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goodplay @ etayorius on May 31, 2017 10:36 PM

I have 390, win10, 17.5.2.

Doom opengl, record not working with relive.

In vulkan, record works, but alt+z(both are game key binds) minimizes game to desktop(only doom does this, for me).

I normally don't use the toolbar, so haven't tried changing hotkeys.

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etayorius @ goodplay on Jun 1, 2017 11:33 AM

I just started using "D3DGear" recording software, it works with basically any API, DX9, DX10, DX11, DX12, MANTLE, Vulkan and OpenGL.

Relive is good, but my take is that it has no support for OpenGL and Vulkan, otherwise it would work with Doom. It needs to be updated to support such APIs.

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etayorius @ kahless_uk on Jun 2, 2017 12:49 AM

Hey i just found this from official YouTube Media Acceleration in Handbrake - YouTube

???????? is there support or there isn't? i'm confused!

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kahless_uk @ etayorius on Jun 2, 2017 7:08 AM

it's a planned feature (been in the works for quite some time actually), the current build 1.0.7 still uses x264 and x265 software encoders

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etayorius @ kahless_uk on Jun 2, 2017 10:13 AM

Ohh i see, Thank you.

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chummy Jun 2, 2017 4:46 PM

There is already some encoding softwares which can do VCE encoding, Handbrake dont support it. Take Staxrip which has a good implementation of VCE done by Rigaya(VCEenc developer).

Just take in mind than VCE H264 is low quality, at best case would compare to x264 veryfast or superfast in low bitrates. If you use high bitrate values then quality would be good. For low bitrate compression x264 medium preset is a better option.

Since you have Intel Skylake CPU i would recommend to enable your iGPU which support Quicksync and has more advanced features than VCE for encoding. StaxRip support all of them VCE,Quicksync,NVENC.

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kahless_uk May 31, 2017 10:47 AM
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Handbrake currently doesn't support hardware encoding except for Intel Quicksync if you have a newer i5 or i7 (Skylake and up).

All you can do is enable OpenCL lookahead in H264 encodes by adding the command opencl=1 but it's almost pointless as it only gives you about 2% more speed while forcing GPU clocks to 100%

To use hardware you need a different application that supports AMD VCE.

As for ReLive with Doom I believe they fixed that a few driver versions back (at least for Vulkan)
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- etayorius @ kahless_uk on May 31, 2017 2:11 PM
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  Oh ok i though it should be working with Handbrake... in regards to Relive and Doom, nothing happens when i click record, other games work fine even super old DX9 games or newer ones like GTA5, GTA4, Xenoverse and SkyrimSE are getting recorded with Relive, it`s just Doom that is not working.
  
  Is there some sort of setting i need to enable in relive to force Relive to record in Doom? i tried enabling "Record desktop" and it only records the desktop and not actually the game... it's driving me nuts. I tried borderless mode and OpenGL and not working, tried window mode and OpenGL... still not working, Borderless/Window with Vulkan and nothing happens... is just not recording anything at all when pressing "Ctrl+Shift+R". If i alt tab very quick after hitting the shortcut keys i can see some sort of error message very briefly but i can't read it because it flashes out very fast.
  
  I can't even bring up the Toolbar in game, i think Relive does not support hooking into Vulkan/OpenGL.
  
  I been trying a bunch of drivers, from the very first Relive to latest 17.5.2 and none of them is working. Can anyone confirm to being able to record doom at all with relive?
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  - goodplay @ etayorius on May 31, 2017 10:36 PM
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    I have 390, win10, 17.5.2.
    Doom opengl, record not working with relive.
    In vulkan, record works, but alt+z(both are game key binds) minimizes game to desktop(only doom does this, for me).
    I normally don't use the toolbar, so haven't tried changing hotkeys.
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    - etayorius @ goodplay on Jun 1, 2017 11:33 AM
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      I just started using "D3DGear" recording software, it works with basically any API, DX9, DX10, DX11, DX12, MANTLE, Vulkan and OpenGL.
      
      Relive is good, but my take is that it has no support for OpenGL and Vulkan, otherwise it would work with Doom. It needs to be updated to support such APIs.
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- etayorius @ kahless_uk on Jun 2, 2017 12:49 AM
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  Hey i just found this from official YouTube Media Acceleration in Handbrake - YouTube
  
  ???????? is there support or there isn't? i'm confused!
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  - kahless_uk @ etayorius on Jun 2, 2017 7:08 AM
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    it's a planned feature (been in the works for quite some time actually), the current build 1.0.7 still uses x264 and x265 software encoders
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    - etayorius @ kahless_uk on Jun 2, 2017 10:13 AM
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      Ohh i see, Thank you.
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chummy Jun 2, 2017 4:46 PM
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There is already some encoding softwares which can do VCE encoding, Handbrake dont support it. Take Staxrip which has a good implementation of VCE done by Rigaya(VCEenc developer).

Just take in mind than VCE H264 is low quality, at best case would compare to x264 veryfast or superfast in low bitrates. If you use high bitrate values then quality would be good. For low bitrate compression x264 medium preset is a better option.

Since you have Intel Skylake CPU i would recommend to enable your iGPU which support Quicksync and has more advanced features than VCE for encoding. StaxRip support all of them VCE,Quicksync,NVENC.
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amdmatt Jun 5, 2017 7:58 AM
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