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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
2 of 2 people found this helpfulFor professional applications, such as graphics and design, you want a FirePro series professional card, as these are built for those tasks, and the only ones certified for 10 bpc. It is worth waiting for Zen, but only if you want to also use Windows 10, if not the 9590 is a good choice. Liquid cooling doesn't cost $150, the Corsair H80i is half that and has the capacity for the 9590. I find it hard to recommend the Radeon SSDs (Toshiba) for $130 when you have the Samsung 750 Evo 500GB for the same price, and Toshiba OCZ Trion 150 480GB for $117 (Radeon R3 SSDs are OCZ made). Zen is required for DDR4 support, else you will use less expensive DDR3 modules. There are only a few motherboards certified for the FX-9000 series, all of them ATX, so a mid tower or full tower case is needed, especially factoring in the FirePro series card. 802.11ac is a wireless standard, not wired ethernet. Before we make recommendations on graphics card, case, and motherboard, we need a budget figure, as FirePro cards are more expensive than their consumer grade Radeon counterparts.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Thank you for the fast response. I didn't know until now that AMD had that line of GPU's. That changes things considerably. I figured it would be worth waiting on ZEN too. Does anyone know when it's coming out? My budget really doesn't matter since I am willing to build it piece by piece. I got the RAM and SSD I listed because those were the ones offered on the official AMD website. I figure if it's an all AMD build I might as well get all I can directly from AMD. I guess this now turned into a AMD ZEN build.
1. ZEN processor - $ Who Knows
2. AMD FirePro W7100 DDR5 8GB Graphics Card - $600 (The other cards are over $1-2k)
3. Corsair H80i liquid cooling - $100 (This is the only one recommended so far)
4. Radeon SSD R3 480GB SATA III, 6Gbps 2.5 inch/7mm Solid State Drive - $130
5. Radeon 8GB DDR4-2400 288PIN CL15-15-15-36 Memory - $53 x 4 sticks = $212
I figured if I was going to get the 9590 I would need a 1000w power supply and liquid cooling. Since I just changed my mind and decided to wait and build a ZEN computer, that doesn't even matter anymore. Now I am still in need for suggestions for a motherboard and case combo. I know everyone is wondering about building a computer with a ZEN processor. It's not even out yet so I am not sure if anyone knows what works, but if anyone can suggest a good motherboard with plenty of expansion slots, 802.11ac wireless (not Ethernet sorry), onboard sound, and generally just known for handling huge parts attached to it? and a case? I wonder if they are going to come out with motherboards specifically for the ZEN? I don't mean to ramble, I just want to build the best computer I can and plan accordingly.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Zen motherboards aren't even out yet so we can't recommend one. They will be unveiled along with Zen at CES in January.
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January? That's not that far off. I guess once they unveil ZEN they will have motherboard/CPU combos and I'll get one of those. At least I have a plan. Thanks guys!
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Don't forget to factor in the cost for Windows 10, Microsoft isn't supporting Zen or Kaby Lake on Windows 7 and 8.1.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Check AMD`s website. On the 13 this month they will be a pre showing of Zen systems this should give you an idea performance wise about there new chips and setups.
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So here is the basic plan for the ZEN Build.
1. ZEN processor/motherboard combo - $ Who Knows (waiting on the official release of the ZEN processor)
2. AMD FirePro W7100 DDR5 8GB Graphics Card - $600 (The other cards are over $1-2k)
3. Corsair H80i liquid cooling - $100 (This is the only one recommended so far)
4. Radeon SSD R3 480GB SATA III, 6Gbps 2.5 inch/7mm Solid State Drive - $130
5. Radeon 8GB DDR4-2400 288PIN CL15-15-15-36 Memory - $53 x 4 sticks = $212
6. A Case (Any suggestions?) -$100
7. Windows 10 - $200
Looking to be spending in the ballpark of $2500 for my graphic workstation. If I end up being able to spend more, I'll probably put that towards a better graphics card.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
1 of 1 people found this helpfulYou'll want faster RAM since you will be working with large objects. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend my case, the Corsair C70, Vengeance® C70 Mid-Tower Gaming Case — Military Green which has plenty of space.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
1. ZEN processor/motherboard combo - $ Who Knows (waiting on the official release of the ZEN processor)
2. AMD FirePro W7100 DDR5 8GB Graphics Card - $600 (The other cards are over $1-2k)
3. Corsair H80i liquid cooling - $100 (This is the only one recommended so far)
4. Radeon SSD R3 480GB SATA III, 6Gbps 2.5 inch/7mm Solid State Drive - $130
5. Radeon 8GB DDR4-2400 288PIN CL15-15-15-36 Memory - $53 x 4 sticks = $212
6. Corsair C70 Vengeance C70 Mid Tower Gaming Case -$75
7. Windows 10 - $200
Other recommended SSD's were the Samsung 750 Evo 500GBand Toshiba OCZ Trion 150 480GB. Does anyone have any specific recommendation for faster RAM other than what I listed? I want to stick to stuff directly off of the official AMD website as much as I can though.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Don't go by the AMD website, it's not updated often enough to keep up with the new tech.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
I know everyone is awaiting the official release of the RYZEN CPU. Hopefully coming out this month (They said first quarter, as early as January). I did some research, and found out that the Samsung EVO SSD's are way better than anything else out right now, so i'm considering scrapping the AMD part for the Samsung. Now all I need is to find out what RAM is the best one to get, and a RYZEN/Motherboard combo when they come out! I will keep this thread updated with the build, i'm just waiting for the CPU to come out!!!
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As odd as it may sound, the Sandisk X400 (yes Sandisk) delivers the same real world performance as the 850 Evo, but is $25 less expensive than the 850 Evo, SanDisk X400 1TB SSD Review - Tom's Hardware.
As far as RAM goes, I like G.Skill, but Mushkin is Texas based, and is just as good as anything out there.
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The Plan:
1. RYZEN processor/motherboard combo - $ Who Knows (waiting on the official release of the ZEN processor)
2. AMD FirePro W7100 DDR5 8GB Graphics Card - $600 (The other cards are over $1-2k)
3. Corsair H80i liquid cooling - $100 (This is the only one recommended so far)
4. Radeon SSD R3 480GB SATA III, 6Gbps 2.5 inch/7mm Solid State Drive - $130 or Samsung EVO or SanDisk X400
5. Radeon 8GB DDR4-2400 288PIN CL15-15-15-36 Memory - $53 x 4 sticks = $212 or G.Skill or Mushkin
6. Corsair C70 Vengeance C70 Mid Tower Gaming Case -$75
7. Windows 10 - $200
Thank you black_zion for your infinite wisdom!
I heard they are suggesting pairing a GPU called Vega with the RYZEN processor. We will have to see if they make a combo of some sort.
Now we wait for RYZEN!
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Looking at the benchmarks for Intel's Kaby Lake on Windows 7, which does not have support from Microsoft, there is negligible performance loss, so you may be able to chop off Windows 10 from that list.
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I actually already have Windows 10 myself. I put it on there because if you're building a new computer, it might be a good time to consider upgrading.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
I don't think it's been mentioned above,
but you would probably gain a small in performance from having a RAID array.
So instead of one drive, buy two of the same model/make and stripe them.
I have 2 500Gb SSHD drives in a RIAD and its quite nippy
JD
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An excellent idea! I'll add it in to the plan for the build.
1. RYZEN processor/motherboard combo - $ Who Knows (waiting on the official release of the RYZEN processor)
2. AMD FirePro W7100 DDR5 8GB Graphics Card - $600 (The other cards are over $1-2k)
3. Corsair H80i liquid cooling - $100 (This is the only one recommended so far)
4. Radeon SSD R3 480GB SATA III, 6Gbps 2.5 inch/7mm Solid State Drive - $130 or Samsung EVO or SanDisk X400 /w RAID array.
5. Radeon 8GB DDR4-2400 288PIN CL15-15-15-36 Memory - $53 x 4 sticks = $212 or G.Skill or Mushkin
6. Corsair C70 Vengeance C70 Mid Tower Gaming Case -$75
7. Windows 10 - $200
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Disagree. The performance of modern mid and high end SSDs is such that they maximize the SATA bandwidth, and their controllers are capable of near 100,000 IOPS, so you won't gain anything with a RAID array except a headache. Mass storage can be accomplished by an inexpensive NAS unit with RAID.
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I will have to read up on SSD drives, and RAID. Maybe I should RAID my storage drives, or not do raid at all if using a SSD. I will have to do some research.
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The specs for the SSD the OP mentioned (AMD Radeon™ R3 Solid State Drives (SSD) by Galt)
can be found here...
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/solid-state-drives
This page clearly states that the Maximum read/write capability of the R3 series SSD drives is:
Read - 510 MB/s
Write - 450 MB/s
And that the INTERFACE supports upto 6GB/s
So its not exactly maxed out,
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
Incorrect, SATA III supports 6gbps, with a maximum theoretical throughput of 4.8gbps with overhead, or 600MB/s, and 550MB/s in practice.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
So is it safe to assume that RAIDing SSD drives is pointless, and maybe a bad idea?
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Pointless yes, bad idea because there's no inexpensive in RAID these days, a 1TB SSD is often cheaper (or the same price) and higher performance than 2 512GB drives, and so on down. RAID only makes sense as RAID1 for data protection.
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Re: What is the best AMD graphic workstation build of 2016?
It's about a week away from the beginning of March. This link has the launch date set at March 2, 2017! Massive New AMD Ryzen Leaks: Official Launch Date, Prices And New Motherboards.
Looks like the top of the line AMD RYZEN 7 1800x is going to be 3.6GHz and 4.0GHz with turbo, and have a price tag of $499. The website says that there is a board that uses the X370 chipset and is $380 for the top model. That's about $880 before taxes for the top of the line parts.
I will wait to see what the company says is the best GPU/CPU/MOBO combo, and see what other do before I start my build, but they say the launch is about a week away!!!!!
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RYZEN officially launched today. I did some research today. I know I'm getting the RYZEN 7 1800x CPU. I tried doing some research on what is the best Motherboard, and all of the companies were Taiwanese. No motherboard companies from the good old US of A. I found a bundle with the above mentioned CPU, and the ASUS Prime X370-PRO. To bad they were sold out. They had it priced at about $640 for the bundle on Amazon. Doesn't matter since I want to see what other people do before I purchase parts. Especially what GPU they use. If you go to the AMD site and look around the front page, you can see they have some sick cases that I would want to get my hands on. Mostly I'm interested to hear what Motherboard, GPU, memory, and SSD drive you guys have used, or done research on and know are good picks. I am really hoping AMD, or some other companies release some SSD's, and RAM specifically to use with the RYZEN CPU/MOBO combo! We will see what happens in the coming weeks!
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Looks like I'm not going to be building this computer after all. I need a new phone, and worst of all a new car. I heard there was a bug that AMD needed to fix too. Any way I guess i'll just wait until the VEGA GPU's come out. I'll only be building this computer after I get a new car, which won't be until next year .
At least I have a plan.
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