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cannot buy laptop with AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card

snegovick Apr 26, 2016 7:46 AM

I can not buy a laptop with a processor AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card.

Such laptops are not found in any store.
Maybe I'm bad looking? Help me please.

Re: cannot buy laptop with AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card

amdmatt Apr 27, 2016 3:44 AM (in response to snegovick)

There might not be any available in your region, check out the AMD Shop. Additionally you may wish to contact some of our partners, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Toshiba.
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- Re: cannot buy laptop with AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card
  
  snegovick Apr 27, 2016 5:35 AM (in response to amdmatt)
  
  The Lenovo official store recommended to me laptop with Intel processors.
  
  [spoiler] Помощь онлайн
  13:37
  Татьяна Андреевна
  Здравствуйте, чем могу Вам помочь?
  13:39
  Вы
  Добрый день. Интересует ноутбук с диагональю около 15 дюймов, fullHD разрешением экрана, процессором AMD A10 8xxx и БЕЗ дискретной виделокарты.
  *видеокарты
  13:41
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  http://shop.lenovo.ua/notebooks/Lenovo-500-15-80NT00ETUA.html#.Vx9FmDGj_2s
  Ноутбук Lenovo 500-15 80NT00ETUA White
  13:44
  Вы
  Будьте внимательней пожалуйста, "процессором AMD A10 8xxx"
  13:47
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  http://shop.lenovo.ua/notebooks/Lenovo-Z5075-80EC00EJUA-Black.html#.Vx9HNDGj_2s
  13:48
  Вы
  А10 8-ой серии.
  13:48
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  Как вариант именно с процессором AMD серия немного отличается,но я бы рекомендовала вс таки выбирать Intel процессор так как он более качественне
  http://shop.lenovo.ua/notebooks/Lenovo-Z5075-80EC00EJUA-Black.html#.Vx9HNDGj_2s
  К сожалению с параметрами точь в точь как Вы указали товара у нас нету.
  13:52
  Вы
  А в чём вы измеряете качество?
  Насколько там его больше?
  Компания Lenovo производит ноутбуки с такими характеристиками как я ишу.
  Возможно под заказ можно?
  13:55
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  Продукция Intel считается гораздо мощнее нежели AMD.
  При таком же количестве ядер и такой же тактовой частоте процессор Intel будет быстрее конвертировать видео,быстрее будет так же время отклика.
  13:58
  Вы
  А зачем мне на ноутбуке конвертировать видео? Я таким не занимаюсь.
  13:59
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  Нет,к сожалению у нас нет такой возможности.Мы работаем исключительно с товарами которые указаны на сайте.Всё чего нет на территории Украины считается не сертифицированной продукцией.
  13:59
  Вы
  Время отклика это как?
  14:00
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  Это скорость обработки заданных операций,время загрузки програм.
  14:01
  Вы
  А разве на загрузку программ не больше влияет скорость чтения с жесткого диска?
  Какая разница в процентах или секундах будет в обработке заданных операций будет между ноутбуками одинаковой стоимости на разных процессорах?
  14:06
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  Процессор является основным ядром ноутбука который влияет на ту самую скорость чтения жёсткого диска,чем мощнее процессор,тем выше скорость чтения,даже если цифровые показатели одинаковы,работать будет быстрее тот ноутбук где процессор мощнее.
  Касаемо точных числительных показателей я Вам подсказать к сожалению не могу.
  14:07
  Вы
  Ладно, я вас понял, лучше то что есть в наличии потому что мощнее...[/spoiler]
  
  A spokesman for Asus said that these models are not available.
  
  How can i contact with DELL, HP, TOSHIBA?
  
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    amdmatt Apr 27, 2016 6:03 AM (in response to snegovick)
    
    Dell
    HP
    Toshiba
    
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      snegovick Apr 29, 2016 1:42 AM (in response to amdmatt)
      
      I am not in Russia, I am in Ukraine.
      On the site there is no support NP buyers only technical support. they could not tell where to find affordable models.
      
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        amdmatt Apr 29, 2016 4:10 AM (in response to snegovick)
        
        I understand. Unfortunately we do not produce the systems ourselves, we provide our partners with the APUs and dGPUs and they build the systems. If you are unable to find any that meet your requirements, you may have to purchase in a different country and have the item shipped to you.
        
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      snegovick Apr 27, 2016 7:38 AM (in response to amdmatt)
      
      Dell have no laptops with AMD CPU http://www.dell.com/ua/p/laptops-ec#!dlpgid=inspiron-laptops?cat=inspiron-laptops&view=standard&isredir=true
      
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      snegovick Apr 27, 2016 9:18 AM (in response to amdmatt)
      
      Toshiba have no laptops with AMD CPU too.
      
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      snegovick Apr 28, 2016 2:20 AM (in response to amdmatt)
      
      Hewlett Packard have no laptops with processors family Carrizo without a discrete graphics card. It's a conspiracy?
      
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Re: cannot buy laptop with AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card

sandrino Apr 27, 2016 11:57 AM (in response to snegovick)

But why would you not want an extra graphics card?
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  snegovick Apr 28, 2016 3:04 AM (in response to sandrino)
  
  I have no need for a video card of equal or inferior performance integrated graphics core.
  The external card is an extra source of heat and power, which will not be used by me. I have no intention to use crossfire in the laptop. For those games that I rarely play (StarCraft, CS GO, Diablo) a perfect built-in graphics processor. After all, the meaning of the APU in the processor and graphics merging.
  
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    sandrino Apr 28, 2016 4:22 AM (in response to snegovick)
    
    Yes, a stronger intergrated graphics would be better, but the thing is, extra graphics card or not, OEM`s will still most likely limit the carrizo APU to only 15W TDP
    
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      sandrino Apr 28, 2016 4:32 AM (in response to sandrino)
      
      It also seems like they try to make up for only having a 15W carrizo by including the dedicated gpu, but the funny thing is that the dedicated graphics they do include (eg the R7 M360) is actually rated at 50 Watt TDP, which does make it so that they are going WAY over their own laptops can handle (think 15 watts + 50 watts) and so the laptop is geuranteed to overheat almost instantly. i have a laptop with the A10 8700p with a R7 M360 and it can reach up to like 89 degrees celcius.
      
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        snegovick Apr 28, 2016 6:15 AM (in response to sandrino)
        
        Well, where AMD is looking? It is impossible to buy laptop with AMD processor without unnecessary for me chip. If agree to useless for APU discrete GPU it will reduce system performance and overheating laptop CPU.
        
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        sandrino Apr 28, 2016 10:01 AM (in response to snegovick)
        
        My AMD laptop was so hot one time that it felt like i was getting 3rd degree burns having it on my lap with direct skin contact
        
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        sandrino Apr 28, 2016 10:03 AM (in response to sandrino)
        
        Of course then my laptop was under heavy load (like unreal engine 4)
        
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Re: cannot buy laptop with AMD A10 8xxx without a discrete graphics card

techguy Apr 27, 2016 8:16 PM (in response to snegovick)

The current AMD powered laptop situation is terrible in mine as well as many other AMD user's opinion. If you decide to buy a laptop with an AMD Carrizo APU, make sure that the laptop maker has NOT castrated the APUs performance by limiting the APU's TDP to ~20w as most laptop makers have done. This is a terrible decision by laptop makers to extend the battery life at a HUGE performance loss to Carrizo based APUs. Obviously if you're looking to buy a laptop with an APU and without a discrete graphics card, you are looking for a practical portable PC. Laptop makers will sell you anything to make money even if it's not what you desire. AMDs integrated graphics is far ahead of Intel or anyone else.
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  snegovick Apr 28, 2016 2:03 AM (in response to techguy)
  
  I am very agree with you! But how can I make sure that the laptop maker has NOT castrated the APUs performance by limiting the APU's TDP to ~20w as most laptop makers have done?
  
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    techguy Apr 28, 2016 8:30 PM (in response to snegovick)
    
    You can e-mail the laptop mfg. and request that they state if the CPU is allowed to run at it's full maximum TDP as listed on the official AMD website or if the processor has been limited to less than the maximum TDP stated by AMD. They will have no choice but to state the truth or be forced to refund your money if they lie.
    
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      snegovick Apr 29, 2016 1:41 AM (in response to techguy)
      
      Manufacturers do not have a vested interest in the sale of laptops with AMD processors. The Lenovo store salesman imposed Intel to me.
      Manufacturers can not offer any laptop without a discrete graphics card. Not many to choose from ...
      
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        techguy May 3, 2016 7:19 PM (in response to snegovick)
        
        HP will be selling the X360 series laptops with AMD's Bristol Ridge 7th generation APUs starting the beginning of June in the U.S. Perhaps your local PC laptop suppliers or HP in your country can advise when these new laptops will be available for you to purchase and if so without a discrete graphics card. I would recommend as before confirming that any AMD APU powered laptop that you buy is not TDP limited by the laptop maker and can run at the full TDP AMD offers for the specific model APU.
        
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        snegovick May 3, 2016 11:22 PM (in response to techguy)
        
        Thank you. Maybe wait for the next generation. If my laptop will survive until the new year.
        
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