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demonsmaycry
Journeyman III
Journeyman III

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

ok if HDR not work...why relive cant record a gameplay in SDR ?

the point is this ... i cant play in HDR if i want share my gameplay. Is not a little problem. Microsoft DVR can record video in SDR with HDR ON. i can share my gameplay and i dont ask more for now..

My polaris can decode video in HDR..and can encode in SDR...i dont see any problem.

https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index8h2

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

Hello,

Even if you ask, you will get nothing in return, not even a polite answer about what, why, how from competent people.

Relive is another AMD meme like, "good ideas, bad execution", as usual like some other AMD software tools!

Having an 8bit Hardware encoder included into the gpu die does not mean that one can't encode in higher quality format!

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benman2785
Grandmaster
Grandmaster

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

try OBS with AMF Encoder
there you should be able to play in HDR and stream in SDR

and the reason why GCN cant encode in HDR is because that their HARDWARE-ENCODER isnt built that way
Software can do all stuff you want to - HWenc is limited
but you save alot of CPU-performance

ps i have an AMD Ryzen 5 2600X @4.2GHz and a RX 580 4G (heavy OC) - so i stick to OBS with good custom settings what will only take max 16% of CPU-load (running on 2 cores of 6) // before with my FX-9590 is used AMF instead of x264 software
so maybe you dont need to use ReLive

and as i said OBS with AMF Encoder (AMD AMF/VCE) has more stuff you can do than ReLive - is also way better for streaming

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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benman2785
Grandmaster
Grandmaster

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

wrong - that is EXCATLY what it means
if i built HARDWARE for a specific task its hard if i change that task

btw - the quality has nothing to do with 8-bit or 10-bit // its the hardcoded color-range that is the problem here // also quality of AMF isnt that bad - its perfect for high-bitrate local recordings and is ok for 5000kbps 720p60 streaming

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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demonsmaycry
Journeyman III
Journeyman III

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

i have a ryzen 1700 with radeon rx 580 but with OBS and AMF encoder in 2k i have very bad performance i cant record in 30 fps

i dont know maybe my obs conf is bad

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

Hello,

If you said so!
Because to me it's exactly what higher quality mean, being able to fit more informations about the colour range, brightness that recreate a better image.
I could be totally wrong, but i don't see why a 8bit hardware encoder could not encode 16bit if wanted to, i would required the double of the cycle for the ASIC to complete the same task, but still possible.

I rarely saw the quantity of bit of an ASIC being an obstacle to things, to a reasonable extent.

I'm more than ok with the actual quality of Relive for recoding and streaming, i would just wish one would take care of the tool a bit more!

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benman2785
Grandmaster
Grandmaster

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

show me your settings
maybe here Home · obsproject/obs-amd-encoder Wiki · GitHub
"1 Encoding at 3840x2160 90 FPS requires Hardware capable of both encoding and handling the data stream. It was tested on an ASUS Strix OC 2 CuCore R9 285 combined with an FX-6350 overclocked to 5.4 Ghz."

usually i can help with those errors

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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benman2785
Grandmaster
Grandmaster

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

dude,

1st
colorrange has VERY LITTLE to do with quality of a videostream - but A LOT on visual apperance; MUCH more important are what encoder, what bitrate, what motion estimation etc - THAT is what makes a picture/video good;

2nd
you still dont understand that HARDWARE-ENCODER and SOFTWARE-ENCODER are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

3rd
HWenc are usually limited, while SWenc can Step-Dance your Video to your drive...

4th

if you need more infos speak to me or speak direct to the AMD Driver Dev who codes AMD AMF here GitHub - GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/AMF: The Advanced Media Framework (AMF) SDK provides developers wi... - but most likely he will say this: About 4k 60hz encoding,HDR/stereo capture support,H264 ME mode.. · Issue #51 · GPUOpen-LibrariesAndS...

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

Hello,

I already checked these kinks, it tell you only what the state of the tool is not it's actual capability, then the thread magically stop until few month ago.
Second, even if i do not understand video encoders soft or hard, still you did not provide anything to explain in a decent fashion.

So to me, i can believe you and say you are right but don't know why!
Tbh i don't see why one can't add something on top of the software dedicated to the hardware encoder to be able to support HDR10.

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benman2785
Grandmaster
Grandmaster

Re: How to record HDR content with Re:live

...

THE HARDWARE IS NOT CAPABLE TO SUPPORT HDR10!

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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