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jppm
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Threadripper 1950X Clockspeed

Hello,

I am new around here and also new at AMD processors. Actually I changed everything in my setup moving from Apple iMac (15 years apple user) and get back to build a new PC from the scratch. A few months of research and investigation made me comfortable about which hardware to choose and also with the actual PC world, because everything is so different in the good way.

My Build:

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950x

Cooler Master Masterliquid ML360 TR4

ASUS ROG Strix x399 E-Gaming

Hyper X Predator DD4 3000Mhz CL15 - 64GB (4x16GB)

ASUS ROG Strix RTX 2080 TI 11GB 

Samsung 970 EVO PLUS - 1TB

Western Digital Balck 2TB

Corsair HX1200 80Plus Platinum Modular - 1200W

NZXT H700

I work as Product Designer and I use the Cinema 4D for 3D modelling and rendering. Now and with this new build I am ready to start playing around with GPU rendering, but for now I only need CPU rendering. So I used to buy i7's with turboboost and hyperthreading what is extremely useful for my 3D renderings. However with my 1950x that is 3.4 - 4.0Ghz I only get 3.7Ghz "stuck" (after installed driver). For example, with my last i7 Skylake that was 4.0 - 4.2Ghz it managed his clock speed for his own need, if I was rendering it will boost to 4.2Ghz and when it finished it will "drop" the clock speed to 4.0ghz (or less I am no sure). I thought the Threadrippers will work in the same way managing the clock speed according to his need, but now I am not sure about that. Before the driver installation the clock speed was constantly moving up and down from 2.2Ghz to 3.7Ghz, with nothing running in background. Concluding what I need to know is if there are a possibility to make it work 3.4 to 4.0Ghz automatically. 

By the way I tried to use Ryzen Master and everything was alright until I tried to "force" him to work at 4.0Ghz to run a Cinebench but the RM just crashed my PC. I rebooted and when I opened the RM again it automatically crashed my entire PC. I uninstalled and installed it without made any change and it crashed my PC again. So the RM is not a solution for me.

I tried to find a topic about this subject but I didn't found it, I hope that I didn't missed it.

Sorry if this is a long post but I thought that was important to you understand my needs and everything else.

Thank you for your attention,

João Mendes.

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misterj
Big Boss

jppm, please post a screenshot of Ryzen Master (RM) - simply drag-n-drop the image to your reply.  Please tell us what Power Plan you are using.  I know nothing about Intel processors but suspect AMD's work very similar.  The processor manages the clocks and voltages to do the job but with constraints.  RM will help us see if you are bumping into one or more of these constraints.  I am running a 1950X right now, so if you can refer me to a bench to run, I can see if I can reproduce your situation.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

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Hello misterj,

Thank you for your replay.

As you asked I will attach a screenshot of RM and Power Plan:

The PP choosed is the preset created by chipset driver and I left it as it is.

I gave another chance and reinstalled RM to took this screenshot, after that I runned a 3D file to render an image and see the clockspeed, 4 times I tried 4 times it crashed. Crashed with Cinema 4D and RM running at the same time and also crashed with Cinema 4D isolated. However I registered the CPU temperatures at the crash moments, so 1st was 58.75º, 2nd 60.25º and 3rd 61.63º (4th was without RM on). So at this time I am not sure what is wrong, because now I realised that some how the system it's not that stable. 

Thank you for you support.

Cheers,

João.

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Wow, sorry, jppm.  I cannot see your screenshots.  Please try again.  You must have an image file like .jpg.  You can also use the Camera icon at the top of the reply window.   Those temperatures are fine.  The limit on all Threadrippers is 68C.  Please give me a link to Cinema 4D so I can run a free trial if there is one.  If there was something I can duplicate, please tell me how to get it.  Did you change anything except installing RM?  I have never seen RM cause these kinds of problems and it always opens in the Current tab (at bottom, far left) which is read only.  Please preform a Clear CMOS using the manual instructions.  Please let me know what you learn.  Enjoy, John.

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Ok it seems to be alright now.

You can try Cinebench that will render a file and it´s very known benchmark nowadays.

The difference between both 1950x it's before and after I overclocked the memory to 3000Mhz that is its clock.64gb 3000mhz cinebench.JPG

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jppm, I can see them fine now - both RM and Cinebench.  If I can find R20, I will try it.  I do have it and am running it now:

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Not bad for two sticks of 16 GB memory (Dual Channel not QUAD).

Your RM looks fine.  For testing, I would let your memory run at SPD speed to see if that helps stability.  Enjoy, John.

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Ok now I downgraded the RAM to 2400Mhz and there are no more crashes, but the set its a 3000Mhz I never overclocked above that. However the processor are changing between 3.7 and 4.05Ghz without action and the fans are speeding up and down constantly, this is what happen before chipset driver was installed.

Thank you,

João.

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Great, jppm, stability is worth its weight in gold.  The changes in your clocks are normal.  I think it is Ryzen interacting with your OS (W10? - what version?)  I think the clocks will jump around less if you use the MS Balanced plan.  Please DL and run the free version of Thaiphoon Burner.  If I post a link, my reply will be moderated and delayed by a few minutes to a few days.  We should be able to find some memory options there.  Please look in your Windows folder for a Minidump folder.  If there is one and it contains files, please compress it and attach to your reply.  Your specifications:

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Maximum boost is 4GHz, so the clocks are OK.  I run almost all my fans on 12 Volts so I do not hear all the up/down.  I cannot see your memory voltage in RM.  This may because of DCOP (not sure of name - ASUS name for its version of XMP).  Please do not use it but use XMP if offered.  Let's not OC yet, but later.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

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Hello misterj,

I am updating right now to WIN10 1903 version. There is no problem with clocks jumping but the problem is the fan noise that results from that. However this jumping without anything running doesn´t make much sense for me, but if it is normal it's ok. How can I check my fan voltage? 

Here is the Thaiphoon Burner's result:

Prepared by Thaiphoon Burner Super Blaster
-------------------------------------------------------------
                         MEMORY MODULE
-------------------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer             : Kingston
Series                   : Not determined
Part Number              : KHX3000C15/16GX
Serial Number            : 0D213A04h
Lot Number               : 0000008337686
JEDEC DIMM Label         : 16GB 2Rx8 PC4-2400T-UB1-11
Architecture             : DDR4 SDRAM UDIMM
Speed Grade              : DDR4-2400T downbin
Capacity                 : 16 GB (16 components)
Organization             : 2048M x64 (2 ranks)
Register Manufacturer    : N/A
Register Model           : N/A
Manufacturing Date       : March 11-15 / Week 11, 2019
Manufacturing Location   : Taiwan
Revision / Raw Card      : FF00h / B1 (8 layers)
-------------------------------------------------------------
                        DRAM COMPONENTS
-------------------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer             : Hynix
Part Number              : H5AN8G8NAFR-TFC
Package                  : Standard Monolithic 78-ball FBGA
Die Density / Count      : 8 Gb A-die (21 nm) / 1 die
Composition              : 1024Mb x8 (64Mb x8 x 16 banks)
Clock Frequency          : 1200 MHz (0.833 ns)
Minimum Timing Delays    : 17-17-17-39-55
Read Latencies Supported : 18T, 17T, 16T, 15T, 14T, 13T, 12T...
Supply Voltage           : 1.20 V
XMP Certified            : 1502 MHz / 15-17-17-36-69 / 1.35 V
XMP Extreme              : 1333 MHz / 15-17-17-36-60 / 1.35 V
SPD Revision             : 1.1 / September 2015
XMP Revision             : 2.0 / December 2013
-------------------------------------------------------------
                         SOURCE SPD DUMP
-------------------------------------------------------------
000  23 11 0C 02 85 21 00 08 00 40 00 03 09 03 00 00
010  00 00 07 0D F8 0F 00 00 6E 6E 6E 11 00 6E F0 0A
020  20 08 00 05 00 A8 1B 28 28 00 78 00 14 3C 00 00
030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 15 2B 16 36
040  0B 2B 0C 36 00 00 36 15 2B 0C 2C 16 2B 0C 00 00
050  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
060  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
070  00 00 00 00 00 00 9C B5 00 00 00 00 E7 D6 61 8B
080  11 11 21 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
090  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0A0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
0F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 74 DF
100  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
110  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
120  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
130  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
140  01 98 07 19 11 0D 21 3A 04 4B 48 58 33 30 30 30
150  43 31 35 2F 31 36 47 58 20 20 20 20 20 00 80 AD
160  FF 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 41 00 00 88
170  07 38 33 33 37 36 38 36 00 00 01 01 00 00 00 00
180  0C 4A 17 20 00 00 00 00 00 A3 00 00 06 FC 0F 00
190  00 50 5B 5B 10 BF 6E F0 0A 20 08 00 05 00 A8 26
1A0  26 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A8 A8 00 CB CB F6 AC
1B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A3 00 00 06 FC 03 00 00
1C0  5A 66 66 10 D8 68 F0 0A 20 08 00 05 00 B4 2A 2A
1D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
1F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

Windows version:

windows version.JPG

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Thanks, jppm.  To see the complete Windows version run winver in a run dialog or a command prompt.  It will present an About window.  To see Thaiphoon Burner properly, I need to see a screenshot.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

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Hello misterj,

Here is respective screenshots:

winver.JPG

Thaiphoon Burner.JPG

I hope this helps to understand what's going on.

Thank you

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jppm, I suggest you try the 1333 MHz XMP.  It should have a much better chance than the 1500 MHz.  Please be sure to use the XMP not the DOCP.  I do not think you can reasonably measure fan voltages.  You should be able to see the speeds  in the BIOS and in some utilities.  I have always thought W10 is responsible for frequency changes.  Ryzen is simply responding to W10.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

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Hello misterj,

Sorry for my delay. 

I don't understand this values, 1333Mhz and 1500mhz, sounds like really slow and old clock speeds.

Actually I have it running at 2666Mhz and seems to be stable so far last weeks with no crash or freezing.

Some apps reads that kind of values 1500mhz instead off 2666Mhz because that I feel confused.

In BIOS I have 3 presets 2444mhz, 2666mhz and 3000mhz, so far this last one looks unstable.

Thank you,

João.

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jppm
Newcomer

"First be sure your Asus Motherboard has the latest BIOS version (04/03/2019 - v1002) and Chip Set (01/22/2019) from here: ASUS ROG STRIX X399-E GAMING | ROG - Republic Of Gamers | ASUS USA 

 

Second check to see if your RAM Memory is listed for your Motherboard's QVL List from 01/19/2019. I have it attached to this post to download by clicking on the file.

 

It is normal for the CPU to fluctuate between low to high speeds during normal operations. If you have PBO enabled that should be able to run it at a higher frequency in BIOS. But PBO is considered to be Overclocking and will void your CPU warranty.

 

I would reset BIOS back to "default" either through BIOS itself or through the motherboard by removing CMOS battery. If you update the BIOS, it will automatically be installed as "Default".

 

Also make sure your Ryzen is not overheating which will throttle the CPU into a lower frequency automatically.  The maximum operating temperature is 68C. It will probably start to throttle before reaching this temperature and will definitely throttle after reaching and passing 68C."

Hello elstaci,

Thank you for your replay.

The BIOS has the latest firmware (04/03/2019 - v1002) and my memory set is in the QVL list, it was one of my concern about compatibility (HX430C15PB3K4/64).

About the PBO I can´t find that option on my ASUS BIOS, I saw this Youtube video but in my BIOS there is not such option: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVQIL_nn7OY

"But PBO is considered to be Overclocking and will void your CPU warranty"

I didn´t know about that I thought that was an official AMD software with the goal of run the CPU as it should run!

About temperatures never seen the CPU above 62 - 63º so I thing that is not the problem.

I will think about more test and I will relate everything here.

Thank you for your time.

Cheers,

João.

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See if you have a BIOS Setting called XFR as per this Asus thread: How to enable XFR mode of Ryzen? 

Okay, seems like PBO is for the Ryzn 2xxx Processors and not the Ryzen 1xxx Processors. So you need to configure XFR/PB in BIOS.

Check under AMD CBS Section in your BIOS.

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jppm
Newcomer

Ok thank you I will search about that.

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jppm, PBO (Precision Boost Overdrive) is for Ryzens 2 and 3 - yours is 1.  Please do not worry about XFR (eXtended Frequency Range) now - it does not need configuring.  The first thing is to get your system stable.  The Clear CMOS should get your system into a condition to run fine.  I really need to see your RM screenshot.  Please make sure you have version 1.5.3.0902.  Here is a screenshot I just took:

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Good luck and enjoy, John.

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misterj
Big Boss

jppm, memory speed is twice memory clock frequency.  You memory is DDR4 (Double Data Rate).  Data is transferred on both the up transition of the clock as well as the down transition.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

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