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naturalwarp
Adept I

Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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So , I just build this 4.800 € machine ( it is my first AMD ) and it's been running for a week now ... and everything works ...
in short : AMD Threadripper 1950X / Aorus Geforce RTX 2080 / X399 Aorus Extreme / 3x Samsung 970 EVO M.2 / 64GB DDR4 Corsair Vengeance ( 4 x 16 )

But what is troubling me , in some cases it is performing so bad even compared to my 3 year old intel system. ( i7 4790 , GTX 750 , 16 GB RAM )
That made me think i must be doing something terribly wrong !!

The worst performance i had was in the online app "poly" by google
this is a simple 3D object viewer and ran super smooth on my old pc but is now killing the performance to 2 to 4 fps with this new wanna-be "beast"

also i've noticed some other sluggishness before ( will add to this question in detail when it pops up again , don't remind the apps atm )
for example viewing 360° images in facebook stuttering alot !!

At this stage i didn't tweak or tune any OC apps yet except for some RGB colors and the CPU watercooling fan and pump speeds ( enermax liqtech 360 OC TR4 II )
since those 3 fans kept going up and down towards full speed and making alot of noise compared to the actual temperature fluctuation .

So , now i started benchmarking , and got at some point got only 524cb in Cinebench ( even after i enabled XMP in my bios )
highest score i got was a bit over 1900cb ( after setting the standard 3.7Ghz OC in Easytune / Smart Boost ) but even without benchmarking the CPU temp went above 80C° !!

I'm reading 4.00Ghz and higher OC is possible even with idle temps of +/- 60C°
and i saw benchmarks of 3000 cb and higher with the same machine specs without over clocking

So, i could really use some tips and would love to find a nice and stable setting for my machine ( i don't have any OC experience at all )
or to find out what it is i am doing wrong.

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misterj
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Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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naturalwarp, I'm coming late to this, but do you see that your temperature is maxed out at 68C!  The processor is throttling.  What CPU cooler do you have?  Here are my specifications and I have no temperature problems:

MSI X399 Creation, Threadripper 2990WX, 3xSamsung SSD 970 EVO RAID0, 4xSSD 960 EVO on MSI AeroXpander RAID10, 1TB & 500 GB WD Black,  G.SKILL Flare X F4-3200C14Q-32GFX, Windows 10 x64 Pro, EnerMax-MaxTytan-EDT1250EWT, Enermx Liqtech TR4 280 CPU Cooler, Radeon RX580, UEFI E7B92AMS.120, AGESA SummitPI-SP3r2-1.1.0.2

If I missed the show, please forgive me.  Enjoy, John.

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naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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i just bought Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Aluminum Thermal Compound and will update what happens with the temperatures in a couple of days


all Cinebench tests keep ending up somewhere between 500 and 1900 cb ( so imo really bad )
these variations happen while tweaking a bit with standard OC settings of memory and cpu in the Easytune app by Aorus

( haven't tried uninstalling them , i also read they are garbage )

So a bit in the dark here , and still would love some advice on performance !!!

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naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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After a half a day of reading testing and searching with only these terrible results ...

I uninstalled all of the Gigabyte apps like Appcenter, including Easytune etc ... all those that come with the mainboard.

Rebooted , ran 1 session of Cinebench and without adjustments whatsoever in the bios ( all default settings )

i scored 2640 cb multi thread
and 151 cb single thread

but this was a 1 time score only ... after that i only tried enabling the memory XMP but things got worse again
also a bit of cpu fan speed control ( in bios )

never scored highed then 1900 averaging 1600 cb

now i'm wondering still what is going wrong ( and if i should use Ryzen master to OC and tweak )

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naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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i did read those

now i installed ryzen master and seems like my cpu is going from 3.70Ghz to 3.92Ghz up and down ...

i did not overclock it , and even uninstalled the software that came with the mainboard that was managing the OC settings

i want to go default factory settings again , but don't know how

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naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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i downloaded the basic F3 bios version from the aorus website , and Q Flashed it from current F4 to F3

loaded defaults and go ... no difference in temperatures yet sadly

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naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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my bios says it is running the CPU at 3.4 Ghz
Core Temp says it runs at 3.6 Ghz

Ryzen Master says it runs at 3.7 and shows fluctuations towards 3.95 and back

Voltage control goes up and down from 1.256 and 1.425 ??

sounds illogical to me ?

i have no idea where to go from here ... idle temp also still ranging from 60 to 70 C° ( which i don't like at all )
please help

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MVP

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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It may be better to move/have your post moved to the Processors​ section where more TR cpu users could help, offer suggestions.

amdmatt

Ryzen 5 5600x, B550 aorus pro ac, Hyper 212 black, 2 x 16gb F4-3600c16dgtzn kit, Aorus gen4 7000s 2tb, Nitro+RX6900XT, RM850, Win.10 Pro..
naturalwarp
Adept I

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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thx ! i hope for some tips now that we arrived in processors

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MVP

Re: Terrible performance on new system : TR 1950X / RTX 2080 / X399 / 970 EVO / 64GB Corsair Vengeance

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Be prepared for a possible long haul in getting it right(to your standard) and silicon lottery.

I've previously downloaded/printed 50-70 pages of guides for each various intel cpu used(and several weeks of trial & error).

Ryzen 5 5600x, B550 aorus pro ac, Hyper 212 black, 2 x 16gb F4-3600c16dgtzn kit, Aorus gen4 7000s 2tb, Nitro+RX6900XT, RM850, Win.10 Pro..