Sorry, jeffb0918, way too many words and too few facts. HWinfo is the least reliable reporting application. Please post only Ryzen Master screenshots for measurements. Clear CMOS, run NO OC software, especially from your MB Vendor and remove any installed on your system. Get NO drivers from the MB vendor - ONLY from AMD and other manufacturers. Please run Cinebench and/or AIDA64 and post the RM screenshots. Also please tell us all your parts, including CPU cooler and PS. Sorry I see nothing weird yet. Thanks and enjoy, John.
Okay. I did what you ask me to do. Updated the original post with a specification list of my PC. I have cleared CMOS, no OC, no RAM OC, manual or with DOCP, no OC software from anywhere, all drivers are from AMD (for the CPU) and nVidia (for the GPU), BIOS is still 1201 with the ABBA AGESA in it from ASUS's website. Here's the Ryzen master screenshot with Cinebench R15 single core test. Do note that this is with a CMOS reset, which means my memory runs only at 2133 MHz. You can see that the peak frequency there is 4.410GHz, which is significantly lower than the 4.6GHz boost advertised. Now, shouldn't this be considered weird? Especially when I'm using the ABBA AGESA already?
Now, my comments in my original post is that some week ago I was able to see a little over 4.6GHz when running the single core Cinebench test, why the behavior suddenly change/degrade, without me touching any settings related to that?
Thanks, jeffb0918. I am still looking, but seeing 4 CCXs set to 4600 MHz. Please try 'Current' speed instead of 'Peak' during the run and let me know what you see. Also try AIDA64. You can use the trial version if you do not have a license. I have Gen 1 and Gen 2 TRs and am waiting for Gen 3, so I do not have a Gen 3 Ryzen yet. I do not understand all this yet. RM went through major changes for 3. I want to look into your BIOS 1201 and ask AMD some questions - no weekend support. So far I do not think this is weird because I suspect you were using HWinfo before, so the results are suspect. Thanks and enjoy, John.
OK, jeffb0918, here is something weird! I DLed BIOS 1201 and examined it with a hex editor. The embedded name is AGESA!V9.Combo-AM4 184.108.40.206. It is not AGESA 220.127.116.11ABBA as advertised! This could be an ID error only, but I suspect that your MB vendor has goofed! This needs to be resolved first. Please let me know what you learn. Thanks and enjoy, John.
EDIT: Please look in your BIOS and see what AGESA it thinks is there.
The 4 CCXs at 4600 was there by default, either by the BIOS or the CPU itself, I know not. As for the "current" tab, it's really hard to say because the number jumps every second. All I can tell is that it is not better or might even be worse than the "peak" tab since the "peak" reflects the highest clock speed during the polling time period, and this "peak" speed will be reached occassionally in the "current" tab, not persistently. If anything, I'm giving the 3900X the best case scenario to hit the 4.6GHz mark by looking at the maximum speed only instead of the "current" or "average".
For AIDA64, I can try that and I will post back with what I see.
The reason I find this "weird", aside from my use of HWInfo, is that my maximum single-core boost clock, even when monitored with Ryzen Master, fall behind significantly compared to other people's. Most people, statistically, seem to be able to hit 4.5, 4.525, 4.550, or 4.575 GHz, while my chip is way way lower. Now, my concerns are the following:
1. I got a defective 3900X.
2. I got a defective motherboard.
3. I got very bad luck at the silicon lottery somehow that my chip is way below spec (?)
4. Is the chip degrading over the few weeks I'm using it? Because by default, if I look at vCore, numbers are relatively high, jumping around 1.3 all the way to 1.5V. Online, there has been numerous threads on this "idle" voltage subject and everyone seems to agree that this is totally fine and normal behavior, nothing to worry about.
So, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this boosting issue of mine, especially since if I look at it from the HWInfo measurements, it points towards degradation, because I'm losing speed without even changing any BIOS settings and whatnot in the course of 3 weeks-ish. And say that HWInfo is an unreliable monitoring software, assuming it has a certain degree of inaccuracy or offset in its sensor measurement if I perform the two comparative measurements (so, 3 weeks ago and now) with HWInfo, and only consider the difference between them, the error due to monitoring software on average should ideally cancel out almost entirely in my opinion.
For the AGESA version, I was unable to find any entry regarding that in the BIOS. But, with HWInfo, it reports the AGESA version to be Combo-AM4 18.104.22.168.
From HWInfo, in the CPU tab, the microcode revision is 8701013 and SMU firmware revision is 46.49.0.
Now, I'm not entirely sure how to interpret these as the AGESA version, but I have read online that I should get the AGESA version from these numbers instead of the one listed in the motherboard tab, since that can be inaccurate.
From what I can tell by looking through all the previous BIOS versions, they all have the same ID for the AGESA It is possible that they simply didn't bother changing the ID? But then again, it was suggested to determine AGESA version based on the CPU microcode version and SMU firmware version, but I'm not sure how to do this.
jeffb0918, I have a bad attitude when I get down on an application - mark it off and blame all anomalies on it. The first thing required is to get ASUS to explain. Your results are too suggestive of what the ABBA AGESA corrected to be just
coincidences! AGESA version:
I do not know those other versions. You will need to ask an AMD support person. AIDA64 also gives the AGESA version.
I suspect you do not have any defective stuff, with the exception of a BIOS! CPU voltages jump around a lot as does temperature. Bad SW is bad and their attempts to correct it may well make it worse. I don't think you should assume that HWinfo remain constant and your stuff is dying. Please let me know what ASUS says. Thanks and enjoy, John.