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girop
Adept I

Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Hi, i bought yesterday my new R7 3700x. My motherboard is an MSI x370 Pro Gaming Carbon.. i know it is very old, but in the next months, i will provide to take a new motherboard. So the point is: Ryzen Master says that my idle temperature is 49%55° C, when i run a Cinebench R20 test my temperature go to 82°C... I'm under stock heatsink with 'H' profile selected. Is all correct? Maybe the temperature is too much high? if yes, change the thermal paste will help? Thank you so much for the support!

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shinkojiro
Miniboss

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Temp sounds right for the stock cooler. Maybe not the idle tho, but that will depend on what your ambient temp is and what processess you have running in the back ground. If you have certain bloatware applications or tools installed, such as iCue, or never close Chrome, Steam, or other such apps, you'll never truely idle and will always run a tad bit hotter.

One thing about Zen 2 processor operation is the TDP is basically thrown out the window with default operation until you go and jump through some minor hoops to make it function like Zen and Zen +. That minor hoop is going into bios, enabling PBO to manual mode, and changing the PPT(w) limit from auto to processor TDP, either 65 or 105 depending on your model. You'll be less likely to experience those temperatures during R20 afterword.

girop
Adept I

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Hello, thank you for your answer… the room temperature is around 25°C maybe a little bit high… If i set in this way the PBO the performance  will remain unchanged? If i'm not falling in mistake the TDP of my R7 is 65w, i will try... So do you think that i don't have to worry about temp? 

Edit: i don't have any bloatware, was running only Origin and Kaspersky.

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shinkojiro
Miniboss

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Nope, All-core performance will drop, but you will be running at base clock rather than throttle temp based default operation. In the end you dont really need to do anything. Temperature under default operation will stay within safe levels.

One thing you do need to make sure you have done is update to the latest chipset drivers if you havent already. They are step one to helping with those idle tems. There will eventually be a new bios for your board based on MSI's speed on getting it out to x370 that will further help with idle temps.

shinkojiro
Miniboss

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

girop
Adept I

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Thank you another time… i've already updated my chipset drivers. I'm a Computer Science Engineer, then my normale use is develop software with Visual Studio or write PHP web app, i think that these softwares aren't a problem for temperature. Sometimes, in relax time, i play with my pc, this could be a problem for temperature? I'm sorry for my hundreds questions but i'm new in Ryzen 3 Series.

EDIT: my chipset is an older version than the version on amd website link (because i've downloaded it from msi website), but the package that i can download from your link is corrupted… any solution?

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jamesx380fx
Elite

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Another thing that could've helped at quickly lowering your idle temps (other than getting a better cooler) would have been the new Agesa 1.0.0.3abba Bios (Stable version). Currently using that bios right now on an x570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi and it significantly reduced Idle voltages and temps, voltages/temps under load are also slightly lower while still achieving better performance than the older Bios.

Unfortunately its still not available for x370 boards, worse so for older MSI boards since they take forever to update Bios for them if they plan to do it at all, can only wait and see if they ever release a stable version for your board but i think by that time, you would have upraged to a newer board anyway. 

P.S : Avoid MSI for your future board purchase, Seeing Allot of problems for their entire AM4 lineup right now so its Best to wait for the cheaper B550 boards from other board venders.

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girop
Adept I

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Hello,

i've bought the msi x370 for choice i haven't any money problems… for personal experience :

1) in 2008 i bought my first (self-bought) CPU, intel core 2 duo e8400 with Asus x48 Motherboard… MB died after 1 month… replaced with ASRock… died after 1 year

2) in 2009 i bought the AMD Phenom II with ASRock 990Fx extreme 9... died after 2 years

3) in 2011 i bought the intel Core i7 2600k with MSI P67A GD53.... the motherboard (and the entire system) still works

4) in 2017 i bought the AMD Ryzen 7 1700 with MSI x370 pro gaming carbon… today all works fine also with R7 3700x

This is my opinion and my data, i consider the MSI a good vendor for motherboard performed my personal experience. I want to clarify that i'm not an overclocker and i don't do any form of overclock. I hope in your understanding.

in the next future i will buy a x570 motherboard

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shinkojiro
Miniboss

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

Weird, it runs for me after extracting the .exe file. Its downloaded as a .zip file so make sure to extract the .exe file first.

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jamesx380fx
Elite

Re: Ryzen 7 3700x Temperatures

The x370 and x470 boards are mostly fine, only problem with them being MSI pretty much havent updated their bios for them in a long while which means your not getting the latest bios fixes for the new Ryzen chips compared to other board venders (Almost all x370 still stuck with 1.0.0.3a and Most x470 still on 1.0.0.3abb Beta).

Its the new MSI x570 board lineup thats all messed up right now, you can go check the MSI forums yourself and you wont find any shortage of problems being reported there when it comes to the MSI's x570 Line, its why i dont reccomend buying them for now atleast. 

And i do own multiple AM4 boards from MSI (x370 paired with a 1700 used for FreeNas, x470 with a 2600 used for my dedicated racing rig plus the x570 paired with a 3900x that I'm now using for blender) and and iv'ed personally encountered allot of problems on the MSI x570 line compared to the other x570 boards (some of them pretty nasty, like the bios would sometimes randomly  corrupting itself when you change save settings) from gigabyte and Asus that I've built for other people.