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Adept I

Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

ALSO WANTED TO ASK FOR SOME HELP TOO REGARDLESS PERFORMANCE JUST IN CASE WITH HIGH IRQL
if a moderator can help me to find a better title for my thread i will highly appreciate
PS: Wanted to apologies for my poor grammar my main language is Spanish.

As the title says: I'm Getting like nice/weird smooth performance when doing OC automatic via the Amd Ryzen Master Tool, i just hit the profile 1<------ and up the soc voltages from 0.8 to 1,125 cause in my Motherboard B350 fatality k4 gaming from asrock there is not such option to soc voltages.

The thing is... that once I hit apply the tool will prompt a message to reboot pc. Once pc is rebooted  !voila!  Desktop goes so snappy, i can tell by  right clicking and refreshing , its so fast.. chrome tabs open fast... I really don't know what of sorceress  is this o.O.  The sad part is that I need to be restarting pc every time that I turn on my pc cause the profile won't save the settings.

The way  I Oc manually via bios Is just by setting to 3.7 cpu clock  and voltages 1.25 same than Ryzen Tool, and disable C-states, things that  may interfere with the CPU OC, and thats it..  just c states, p states tried disabling all except p-state 0 on auto, also tried leaving all default  and same problem pc doesn't  feel  fast as when  I do via Ryzen Tool, whats that :O?

I have this pc specs:
Motherboard: Asrock ab350 fatality k4 gaming ( last bios 5.00)
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 stock
GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 Gaming, 06G-p4-6262-KR, 6GB GDDR5, ACX 3.0, & LED

Rams: Patriot Viper 2x4 (8gigs) OC to 3200 (using a nice calculator from guru3d user 1USMUS)

Hpet both disabled Windows and Bios.


This is the current profile that i have to use every reboot on pc this a picture with  48.25 c  cpu usage 11-15% while chrome some tabs and 50% use memory

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This was the RAM calculator that I used ,  I found that my rams  probably are  Samsung D-DIE(tried use taiphon burner and some friends told me that probably are E-DIE)  I use safe preset

This works so fantastic I can tell by doing aida extreme 64 stability test and ram runs over 45 minut without errors...  the only problem is that my motherboard have more than 4 options in CAD bus so i cannot properly managed to changes things at alll cause it wont boot so my letting default it will automatically configure to 24-24-24-24 cad bus which is okay i think
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Now the problem is that My cpu seems to have alot of HIGH IRQL, what can i do to reduce that latency?

I contacted Daniel via Gmail from Resplendence software and he told me that my latencies on cpu are kinda high and by updating bios should reduce latencies, but that didn't work.

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PS: I have run my bios on default settings and still getting IRQL HIGH, but i really love my pc at least on Desktop with this ryzen and my ram up to 3200 with the calculator, the problem is that in games i can tell like visual lag, even if  i'm moniitoring games with Frame-rate frame timing using Riva tuner to try 1/1 perfect frames timing, sometimes i get curvy frame time even with 100fps 10ms, but probably cause games but i can tell that this is not normal.

Also i have been told by a person in LinusTechTipsForums that this is normal, but i would like to hear more opinions on this wonderful AMD forum, also i appreciated your patience and kindness people for helping me. so thanks alot

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x58
Adept I

Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

Bump please?

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misterj
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Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

x58, I ran the Latency Monitor and here is my result:

Latency.jpg

My system is somewhat faster than yours - here are my specifications:

ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Pro Gaming, Threadripper 1950X, 2xSamsung SSD 960 EVO RAID0, 4xSSD

960 EVO on ASRock Ultra Quad, 1TB & 500 GB WD Black, G.SKILL [Flare X (for AMD)] F4-

3200C14Q-32GFX, Windows 10 x64 Pro, Enermx Platimax 850, Enermx Liqtech TR4 CPU Cooler,

Radeon RX580, BIOS 2.0  -- no OC

I know nothing about Resplendence Software, so do not have the result equivalent to yours.  If you tell me what you are running, I will try to duplicate.  Thanks and enjoy, John.

x58
Adept I

Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

Oh may godness your system is beautiful :O
How did you manage to get that latency of 16? mine is like  60 jumps to 90, sometimes to 138 back to 60-70, did you do something special in your bios settings? like tweaking things such Disabling HPET? or  disabling meltdown/spectre via Windows to improve performance or special things like that :O?

Well i just used Ryzen Master Tool to get 3.7 cause by doing via bios, it works as 3.7 but didn't feel any smooth or performance, so i can tell that in the tool.
Also i'm using a Windows 10 1709  16299.125 pro 64 i will update with the new KB windows10.0-kb4338825-x64 which is the latest update to see if i get and improve on latencies :/

Also i used in Windows Hpet disabled via CMD, also in my bios, i disabled that option(also disable Dynamik Tik) , and as i mention early, i used the 1usmus dram calculator provided by an user in Guru3d that helped alot people to improve their ram speed to 3200 or even more  without broken anything, and my stability test are good on Aida64 no crashes or what so ever...

Even that i have that high latencies IRQL in the   Latency moon such 60-90 or 135, also  MisterJ, you can test the In depth latency test that came with Latency moon and just hit Start and take a picture after 30 seconds of running to se if your cpu have high latencies like me? would you please do that?

Thank you for your dedication and kindness, really appreciate.

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misterj
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Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

x58, thanks for the compliments on my system.  At this stage of things I am just playing with all this as a hobby.  I did run some "In Depth Latency Tests" last night but wondered what environment you were running.  I quickly discovered that anything running in the background (browser with music), clicking on  links or even moving the mouse cause large jumps in latencies.  Mine run a little less than 9 μseconds, with sudden jumps to 165 μseconds.  I will run some more and post a screenshot.  I have no OC and no changes in UEFI except for my RAID.  I am not running a XMP for my memory, so it is running at 2400 MHz.  I have been testing various RAID configurations and UEFI versions lately.  I will post the screenshot shortly.  Enjoy, John.

x58
Adept I

Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

Thanks for your cooperation John, and yeah if you can try to do the same In depth latency without running background thing i would love to see how much, cause if you get in all your cpu latency us 9 thats incredible, that mean that your system performs so incredible i think o.O.

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misterj
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Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

x58, I disabled my NIC, exited my AV and all other running applications and did not move my mouse.  Here it is:

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I recommend that you open your UEFI, Load UEFI Defaults, Save and Exit.  Set you Windows environment as I did and try it.  I suspect you will ultimately need to trade off latency, memory speed, CPU speed, etc.  Enjoy, John.

x58
Adept I

Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

Wow, no way! that looks so fantastic :O
By the way whats does mean NIC? and im guessing that the --> AV<-- is the avast antivirus?
And yes i have tried running the app with the bios default settings and still high like 100+us oh gosh i'm doom xD
By the way what version of windows 10 are you running?

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x58
Adept I

Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

Also a friend told me that, she recommends me to buy a Dedicated Sound card and Dedicated network card, to reduce cpu interrupts and that may help with this issues, i was wondering if you have dedicated sound card or network card, that may reduce latency?

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misterj
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Re: Getting better performance on Amd ryzen tool rather than manually OC via BIOS

x58, NIC is Network Interface Card.  In my case an Intel I211AT on the MB.  Intel NICs are well know and respected.  I have no dedicated sound or network cards and suspect they will not help much.  If you do buy a dedicated NIC I suggest an Intel.  AV is AntiVirus, in my case Comodo.  I do not know how much your processor cost but mine was USD 1000, cheaper now with the announcement of Threadripper 2.  Remember I have an SSD based RAID0 for my system and 32 GB memory, 4 channel.  I assume you have the latest AMD chip set drivers DLed from the AMD website and are running the Ryzen Balanced power plan.  I think it is not time to be buying more HW.  I hope someone with your processor will volunteer to run the latency test - simple to run.  My W10 version:

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Patch level 191 is available now.  Good luck and enjoy, John.

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