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strikerloki
Journeyman III

FX 9370 Overheating

I have run this FX 9370 processor for a long time, and previously had issues about a year ago, but have not in a long time.  The processor continually over heats when running games.  I have adjusted the fan speeds but it only slows the inevitable.  Please any suggestions would be great.

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Re: FX 9370 Overheating

What is your liquid cooler?

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techguy
Forerunner

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

The FX-9000 series CPUs are 220w models and require a premium 220w capable HSF, a minimum 650w / 54 amps minimum on the 12v rail PSU, 220w approved mobo and additional VRM cooling for stability and to prevent the CPU/VRM from overheating and throttling the CPU frequency. Obviously with a 220w CPU you need almost twice the cooling capacity of a std. 125w FX CPU. The case must also have good airflow thru it to cool the CPU and GPU card.

IME the top 7 HSFs on the FrostyTech.com website provide more than 220W of cooling and are currently being used by many people with FX-9000 CPUs without any overheating issues. There is a thread in this forum specifically on FX-9590 CPUs with proper HSFs. With a HSF you don't introduce the water leak liability that all liquid coolers suffer and the resulting damage to PC hardware that occurs when they leak coolant. If you scroll down to the AMD Top 10 HSFs, any of the top 7 models have proven capable of cooling a standard FX-9590 CPU.

Top 5 Heatsink Charts on FrostyTech.com

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qbtheslayer
Challenger

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

Also if you are going to post this list...  please post lists to sites where you can actually buy these.  Most of the Tower HSF on this list are very hard to find for most users, plus most are very expensive.

QB

techguy
Forerunner

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

There is absolutely NO data that supports the belief that liquid coolers are "as safe as air coolers" due to the reality that liquid coolers by their nature contain liquids that can and do cause hardware damage when they leak. We know that liquid coolers leak because of firsthand reports by owners of liquid coolers. We know the cooler leaks cause damage PC hardware or worse because owners of leaking liquid coolers have documented this with photos of damage hardware. HSFs do not contain liquids that can damage PC hardware as liquid coolers can and do. It's not an opinion but a documented fact that liquid coolers leak and that all liquid coolers have a coolant leak liability that has bitten many PC enthusiast. That is precisely why it's prudent to NOT use a liquid cooler as it introduces a serious liability that is unnecessary. There is no AMD consumer CPU that requires liquid cooling as previously reported in several FX-9590 and other forum threads.

All PC users are free to use whatever CPU cooler makes them happy. It's important however to perform due diligence before installing a serious PC liability into your computer as not only PC hardware can be damaged, but fires can result from liquids getting on/in to the hardware or PSU. That is a very serious liability that simply does not exist with a HSF.

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techguy
Forerunner

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

PC hardware is sold by the manufacturers as they desire to distributors around the world. As such there is no means to define what products are available at any given time other than by contacting local sources or the product manufacturer for specifics. Products that are/were available in the U.S. may be discontinued or superseded but these products may still be available in other countries such as the Aegir SD128264. Anyone looking for a specific product will be able to find a source willing to supply it to them if the manufacturer still produces the product and doesn't restrict sales geographically.

BTW, as previously listed high quality tower HSFs are typically 60-70% the cost of an equally performing liquid AIO/CLC cooler and HSFs don't introduce a coolant leak liability that all liquid coolers exhibit. A $39.95 (Newegg), Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO provides some of the best value around and provides excellent cooling for any 125w CPU equaling or exceeding many AIO/CLC coolers costing far more. That is why they sell so many of the Hyper 212 series HSFs. It may not be good enough for 220w CPUs but it's a great value and very reliable.

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qbtheslayer
Challenger

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

Yeah...  that's one Tower HSF, not on that list mind you (but close enough)...  and everyone knows that ONE...  post some links and prices of the others please.

And just to clarify that list for anyone else reading this, there is 6 Liquid All-in-Ones at the top that just destroy the best Tower HSF's and another 8 scattered throughout the top 8 listed.

QB

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warsun
Challenger

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

Dude.Let me be clear.I have done the same things as you.The issue is with mods an some programs.If you are running fallout 4.That is the single worst program i have ever tried to use.I do not recommend modding that piece of junk.The mod ORDER in which they are install is what is causing your heat.An the heat is NOT your processor.It is your graphics card.No matter what anyone tells you.it is not your processor.That is perpetrated by Intel fanboys claiming AMD processors run hot.Open your case an put your hand on your graphics card.I have a R9 390 it literally burned my hand on touch just running Fallout 4.Due to load order.

It is Nvidia Gameworks titles causing this.They try to force your graphics card to die.Putting the majority of the workload on the processor an NOT the graphics card.PhysX is causing your overheating problem.Sorry to let you know.

Anything on this list will cause overheating Random crashes an if your motherboard is just a bit older.Random system shut downs.If its Fallout 4.You are system locked.NVIDIA GameWorks | GeForce

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techguy
Forerunner

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

No one here is obligated to provide anyone with specific information that they desire because some folks are upset that liquid coolers are a liability for PCs. The top seven AMD HSFs listed on FrostyTech are known to provide proper cooling for any AMD FX 9000 series CPU or lower power consumer CPU/APU. FrostyTech does not test every HSF available and as such there are sure to be other quality tower style HSF that provide proper cooling to accommodate the needs of all AMD FX CPUs. Availability of PC hardware is governed by the sales and marketing desires of the manufacturer.

Here are the some technical reasons why a liquid cooler is an irrefutable liability and a technically poor choice when used in any PC:

1. Liquid coolers by design contain liquids that can and do leak causing damage to mobos, GPU cards, PSUs, HDDs, SSDs, etc.

2. Liquid coolers are documented to leak by the owners of these coolers many of whom have experience as many as three or more liquid coolers that all leaked or failed per the threads in the Corsair forums

3. While the coolant leak liability of a liquid cooler may be the most serious liability, it is not the only liability as water pumps are known to fail as well on liquid coolers

4. Virtually every consumer based PC mobo is designed for use with a Heatsink/fan (HSF), which provides cooling to the VRM circuit/heatsink - where as a water block/liquid cooler does not - resulting in the VRM running excessively hot which can result in throttling of the CPU

5. Mobo makers and AMD specifically advise that additional VRM cooling is required when using a liquid cooler to prevent damage to the mobo/VRM circuit from overheating

6. Liquid coolers typically cost 30%-50% more than an equal performing HSF which can never leak coolant to damage PC hardware

7. Since there is no consumer level AMD CPU that requires a liquid cooler for proper cooling, using a liquid cooler automatically introduces a very real and unnecessary liability to a PC

8. PC hardware forums all over the Net have firsthand reports of liquid coolers leaking which substantiates the coolant leak liability is very real

Every time I point out in this forum the obvious shortcomings and liabilities of AIO / CLS liquid coolers, a few folks get upset because they are unable to accept the reality that liquid coolers are technically a very poor and unnecessary CPU cooling choice. My purpose for posting in this forum as well as online engineering forums is to help people learn how to help themselves and not be misled by advertising hype and misinformation posted as accurate when it is not. A perfect example is the false claim that liquid coolers "are as safe as HSFs" when there are not. Apparently some folks do not understand why liquid coolers are not as safe as HSFs so I explained why liquid coolers are not as safe.

Posting false information is a disservice to PC enthusiasts looking for reliable, accurate technical information to improve their PC experience. By performing due diligence PC enthusiasts can learn the truth about PC hardware so they don't end up experiencing very painful results when the hardware fails or causes problems. The bottom line is consumers are free to use whatever CPU cooler makes them happy. It is however useful to do your homework so as not to get duped by advertising hype and false claims by enthusiasts.

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qbtheslayer
Challenger

Re: FX 9370 Overheating

It's not about me or anything I need or want...  you post a list of coolers YOU think people should buy, but you fail to back that list up with anything real world in terms of availability, pricing and vendors  So that list of coolers is truly meaningless if no one can find one to buy.  I'm just really curious, I would like to compare.  And who knows, maybe you are right and my computer is going to be destroyed by my liquid cooler.  At that point I would certainly be looking for a tower HSF, but you continue to fail at even the simplest request to prove that these top coolers are indeed available and are indeed vastly cheaper than a liquid AIO.

Oh and I just noticed this:

"Posting false information is a disservice to PC enthusiasts looking for reliable, accurate technical information to improve their PC experience"

Well your point #6 is certainly false information:

6. Liquid coolers typically cost 30%-50% more than an equal performing HSF which can never leak coolant to damage PC hardware

So to sum up, you are the only one misleading people...  unless you can provide some proof other than the ONE posted above (everyone knows that ONE, and I have even recommended it in the past, it's really good)

QB