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ascreibd
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FX 4170. Freeze, hang, lockup. Must hard reset (reboot) to get num lock to turn on/off. PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios vir

Hello

At my ropes end with this one, although I have a sort of got it solution but not completely.

PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest (3.618 or something) and many previous versions as well, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios virtually eliminated the freeze issue. Now I'm talking idle, browsing the web, youtube, netflix. Games? Shoot dont get me started. This is what made me buy two new Hdd's, a new psu, a new graphics card. Have you sat there and waited for memtest; sheesh. I will trade this for my old athlon 3200+ any day. Except the world moved on and left it in the dust. Anyway any thoughts?... Seriously anything like man I got a supped op quad core that gets tired way too easy. My biggest question is why so much instability and complete freeze when all four cores are enabled. That has been the one setting that I keep trying to figure out. Enable four cores and overclock = freeze. Standard clock freeze. I understand that it's not a beast, but GTA 5 should run, while with less than ideal quality, it should run but it doesn't. Before GTA 5 it was Black ops 2. Kill Kill Kill almost to the end of the level and bam. Hit the reset button. Luckily I almost eliminated this problem. (I completed the campaign and zombies, and some multiplayer for BO2, as well as quite a few other games). But occasionally, boom, gotta stop now, needs some rest.

Any thoughts and similar experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to the community for letting me rant a bit...

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amdmatt
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Re: FX 4170. Freeze, hang, lockup. Must hard reset (reboot) to get num lock to turn on/off. PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios

I would try disabling some of the CPU Power Saving features in the bios. Look for C1E, C6 and Cool 'n' Quiet. 

ascreibd
Adept I

Re: FX 4170. Freeze, hang, lockup. Must hard reset (reboot) to get num lock to turn on/off. PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios

Hi amdmatt,

I currently have those settings off. I never quite figured out what causes this with all 4 processors active. It came down to one of three things. 1. My cpu is defective and needed replaced. 2. The motherboard was not sufficient for the fx processor line, which I read in other threads concerning the FX-8000 and FX-9000 series processors. So they advertise that these older boards could handle the new processors but in reality they needed to build new boards specifically for the FX's. Which they have out now 3. I thought I eliminated an overheating issue, but I may not have. So, I finally (after 3 years), ordered a liquid cooler and maybe this will fix it?...    If not my last resort will be to buy a new motherboard and reinstall everything, again, but I don't know (back when I was trying everything I ran out of time/money to throw at it). The disabling cores feature was the one constant that reduced the (stress/power/heat?) on the mobo/cpu.

If you like I can post some screenshots of MSI control center to show temps and voltages, click bios 2 to show bios settings, and/or use occt which I think I still have on here somewhere.

Thanks for the input, though.

techguy
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Re: FX 4170. Freeze, hang, lockup. Must hard reset (reboot) to get num lock to turn on/off. PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios

If under heavy load your CPU is running above 61C internal core temp, then you have an overheating issue that must be resolved. FYI- Not all liquid coolers can properly cool an FX processor and keep the internal core temp below 61C under full load so if your CPU is currently overheating make sure to check the internal CPU core temp with the new cooler to be certain it is below 61C full load. OCCT, AIDA64, Core Temp and HWiNFO will provide reasonably accurate internal CPU temps in the 60C-70C range.

ascreibd
Adept I

Re: FX 4170. Freeze, hang, lockup. Must hard reset (reboot) to get num lock to turn on/off. PSU fine, memtest ram fine, gtx 650 decent, graphics driver latest, bios for that um MSI 990fxa gd 80 v2 is 13.5. What else. Oh yeah disabled cores 3 and 4 in bios

Hi techguy,

I waited a week since installing an Arctic Liquid Freezer 120mm to reply back. There has been a significant decrease in the temp. It hasn't gone up past 40C since installing so this definitely eliminated the auto shut off from getting too hot. When I wake it up it idles around 28C, and 39C est.  gaming. Huge improvement. I of course turned on all four cores in the bios after installing so... I personally have not seen it freeze up. Not once. I still have quite a few event 41 in event viewer, but my kids (especially the youngest one) doesn't always know how to exit a program, such as a game, when it freezes (crashes). But I can ctrl + alt + delete to get to task manager to close it. Sometimes you need to sign out, and sign back in but I haven't seen it hard freeze (lockup) since. The heat is one aspect but for those still having issues I think it has to do with programs crashing and bottlenecking the cpu, while windows (grrrr) tries to assess and close the program.

Thanks again for the suggestion.

The two 120mm fans plus the radiator installed in the intake direction with an outtake fan on the side is working well. Fit my (old) mid atx tower case perfectly. Plus a lot quieter, shhhhhh.

Thanks again guys