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PiersJH
Adept I

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Still experiencing this with a 5900X, clean Windows 11 installation, entirely new hardware, all updates installed (firmware, chipset, OS).

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mackbolan777
Forerunner

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Well, thought I'd never need to be back but... This issue causes error 18 and 19, with random restart, on my PC running Windows 10 x64 Pro. Without going into specs totally, this is a 5600X CPU with an Asus TUF Gaming X570 PLUS, and it started today.

I turned the fTPM on about 2 weeks ago to see if that would allow Windows to "pre-approve" Windows 11, which doing so did clear up that part. I don't want to go to Windows 11 just yet, because of issues like these. Apparently, whether Microsoft admits it or not, this is an issue with a recent Windows Update that added fTPM/TPM CA's for Windows 11. This spans AMD and Intel, probably others. The "Insider" channel said it's fixed, I wait for the final builds. Remember, they said 10 was "final" and it was buggy as this, no surprise here. This isn't the first Update to cause a BSOD or random restart either. Which one did it? Who knows?

Unless you have a burning desire to run Windows 11, let it be for a bit. It's a nightmare of bugs, far from "final". I'm going to disable the PSP for now in BIOS and I won't be back again, hopefully. Windows 10 is good for a few more years, plenty of time for Microsoft to fix this or we need to buy a 3rd party TPM. My board has a spot for one, however, I should be able to use the built in PSP/fTPM.  

Workaround for now is disable the fTPM in BIOS if you're running Windows 10. Otherwise, the "Insider" track has a fix allegedly. Good luck.

*Update 1/2/22 Happy New Year! No more errors with the fTPM off and "discrete TPM" enabled. If you leave the setting at "firmware TPM", you will still get the errors. My shutdowns were from TIM failure, so I re-pasted the CPU and good to go. I should really just go liquid metal, but not comfortable with the risks. Windows 11 has nothing I need in it, so it can wait. It looks like we may need to buy 3rd party TPM's unless AMD and Microsoft can resolve the CA issue. My board supports a TPM, but I hope they just resolve this.

"It worked before you broke it!"
Velocitas
Adept I

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Hello all,

Any update on this?

I posted now on 3 different places my latest feedback, but still no solution.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?127422-TPM-error-SCEP-Certificate-enrollment-initializatio...

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/537944/tpm-event-logger-error-after-cpu-swap-even...

and here.

Please AMD if you want to overtake Intel you need to solve such problems as soon as possible. I was for years joiner of team blue and switched back after decades to team red. But I see you still struggle with basics.

I can offer to send more details of my system but we need to stop ansering questions like do you have the latest drivers etc.

Please escalate this issue here and provide support.

Also I see people replacing their CPU's with RMA and solving this... I wonder if this is a CPU production issue? Can't be from my point of view but I am not able to verify this by myself...

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Velocitas
Adept I

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Step 2 did not work for me. I asume you mean TPM within the OS and not BIOS?

The task is disabled but still errors.

Fun fact is, that Windows wouldn't allow me to login if there would be a real issue with TPM. So this error is not related to TPM or not that bad. But like many other I also get errors like disconnected devices with ID's that not even exists. And no I have not a tree of USB devices with many HD on it.

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MVP

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

An SCEP error is normal on startup if you are not connected/registered to the IT provider.

It's quite complicated, but MS deems every one as Domain or Workgroup.

You need to spend many hours reading up on Azure.

Don't know about Win 11, but Win10 (for me) error 86 has never caused a system crash with ftpm.

You use to be able to opt out of workgroup and run as home/personal pc, but last few times i tried did not stick.

 

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Stanmore
Adept II

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Ryzen 7 2700x, RX580x, Win 10 Home

System has been stable since new (2 years).

I've been getting this error on startup since late Nov last year.

Seemed to start after an update that Win 10 and Win 11 users got.

I'm not part of a domain (edit - issue refers to the missing certificate, so not a Workgroup matter at all)) .

There are hundreds upon hundreds of AMD users with the same issue, some getting the error repeatedly not just on startup.

Since the error started showing up I've had a couple of blue screens, system slow down and other minor niggles.

Microsoft suggest it is an AMD issue. I honestly have no idea but it is annoying.

I've been through all the usual steps including a complete Win 10 fresh install.

 

 

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MVP

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

'not part of a workgroup.....'

Have a look at 'system properties > computer name' and in the 'network id' and 'change' settings.

There are some amd files/folders (forgot where) named 'workgroup........ ', maybe they contribute to the error (i don't know) ?

 

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Stanmore
Adept II

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

My 'not part of a workgroup' comment was referring to the certificate issue.

Only started late Nov 2021.

Cetificate does not exist.

I suspect it was MS rolling out the AMD TPM fixes they did for Win 11 (slow down for AMD based machines) and Win 10 got it as well in prep.

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Sunleashed
Journeyman III

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

Hello, i have a question for you i would like to do the same but when i set up to discrete tpm and boot it did not change and stay on firmware tpm.

Also how did you disable the amd psp?

i really want to get rid of those

thank you mackbolan777

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PiersJH
Adept I

Re: failed to initialize SCEP-Certificationregistration | Windows 11 Education

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Please AMD if you want to overtake Intel you need to solve such problems as soon as possible. I was for years joiner of team blue and switched back after decades to team red. But I see you still struggle with basics.

I can offer to send more details of my system but we need to stop ansering questions like do you have the latest drivers etc.

Please escalate this issue here and provide support."

And it's the lack of meaningful support from AMD, and what appears to be incompetence, that stopped me (and over a thousand workstations I'm in charge of...) using AMD for a decade. After trying AMD once more in a personal capacity, it appears nothing has changed in terms of useful support and a trouble-free experience.

In fact, the most useful support I've received from AMD is a two sentence reply to a reddit post from Robert Hallock. It's odd to find AMD's official forum apparently experiencing a perpetual staff shortage.

Despite Zen 3's excellent energy efficiency, and a few other features, Intel products just work and support is excellent both by phone and with Intel's official forum. AMD needs to have its support staff engage with users on this forum, or simply close it down.

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