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tapidlittle
Journeyman III

Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Hello, I'm new here!

I have a Ryzen 5 2600. I have just replaced my GTX 1070 for an RTX 2080ti.

I have some issues with Ubisoft games, probably due to the fact that they are not well optimized. 

Anyway I am playing on a 4k 60hz monitor (it's not Gsync) and I am not a competitive player.

My PC is 100% dedicated to games, I don't stream and I don't do anything else than gaming.

The problem I have with most of the UBI games seems to be related to my CPU, it's looks like my GPU often don't reach more than 70-80% load, which I think it's not normal. I should get 90+ ....

I was just wondering if my low FPS are CPU bounded...

And would that help getting a 3700x ?

thanks for any advice.

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jamesx380fx
Elite

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Really depends on the game, and going from 2600 to 3600 your probably looking at +9-15 fps gain with some select DX12 (and vulkan) games like Shadow of The Tomb Raider and its like going as high as 20+ or so from what i'ved seen.

And No, your CPU usage should never get 100% load during gameplay and thats normal, if you ever see all your CPU Cores/Threads going 100% while gaming then you need to check your system for whatever process is using that much CPU load in the background.

Personally i would go for the 3700x or 3800x since you already have a 2080TI, might as well give it some room so it can run at its best. Plus almost all UBI games use Denuvo or Worse, VM+Denuvo on top for double drm sht sandwich that only adds more uneeded load to your system, so having more Cores/Threads in this case will help a bit with your overall system performance with future UBI games (RT enabled games in particular) that are sure to be even more resource intensive like GhostRecon Breakpoint.

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tapidlittle
Journeyman III

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Thanks for these tips.

I'm only playing at 4k but it's look like the drops I get (again most UBIshit games) are related to the CPU. When I get these drops I can see that my GPU is not full load... around 70-80%...

And my CPU about 40-60% but with some of the cores near 80-95%.

I have tried Ghost Recon Breakpoint and it seems this game has many issues with optimization. I get more an average of 70 fps and suddenly just zoom in with my scope I have major drops to 40 fps... And with Vsync On it's unplayable.

I have even tried the game in 1080p and I get the same issues... my GPU at 1080p is about 30-40% load....

I think I will get the 3700x hoping that will fix my issues with UBI games.

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Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

I think it's just the games, almost all games these days are released broken,... Most of them get patches for months so they work properly. Also drivers get updated, etc. 

Only playing on 4k,... This is still a very high resolution for most new games. Ghost Recon Breakpoint is hardware monster,...  You do have more than 8 GB of RAM and a SSD or better drive ? 

Also when you have 60Hz monitor you should set your game to max 60 FPS, this way your FPS drops will be much less noticable and your not rendering for nothing since your monitor will not display more than 60 FPS anyhow. 

If none of your hardware get's used 100% it logically can not be the hardware that causes the problem. 

You should rather send a message to ubisoft for the games you have and let them take a look in it. 

If game developers do not get complaint they do not fix anything and are not aware of it. 

You should really wait a while with upgrading after having contacted ubisoft about it.

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tapidlittle
Journeyman III

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

16gb RAM and NVME drive.

I don't understand why capping my FPS to 60 would help with FPS drops?? I understand that I don't have to render more than 60 FPS as I have a 60hz monitor but for FPS drops I am not following you...

I don't have any issues playing at 4k with any of my other games, I just have to lower some settings or use the in-game scaling and set it to 0.9x or 0.8x and have a great experience. 

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Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Because you have a bigger resource buffer upwords that way. Hence the stutter can get minimised and or get's less noticable because your not coming from much higher FPS. 

It's SLI system tactic (micro stuttering), read it a decade ago or so but it still applies today and also on non sli systems. 

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tapidlittle
Journeyman III

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

I am using Vsync so I guess it's the same as capping to 60 fps no?

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Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

No it's not the same. With vsync the driver/ game sync's the screen refresh rate's and fps. However this can cause complications with the game or driver and can have bad results. 

With just a FPS cap and no vsync you also have no input lag or possible bad results (lower performance and such).

I say possible, it can be that the game/driver works just fine with vsync on however a input lag is still always there, however it's possible you do not notice,...

Some games have ingame FPS caps or you can use MSI Afterburner.

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tapidlittle
Journeyman III

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Leaving Vsync OFF on my monitor (LG OLED TV) is unplayable! even if I have cap my FPS to 60 if it drops below 60 it gets ugly! 

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jamesx380fx
Elite

Re: Do I need to upgrade my CPU ?

Try using Fast sync instead. Disable in game vsync then open up nvidia control panel->Global settings and look for an entry that says vsync,  select fast sync from the drop down menu then apply.

Try it out, its monitor agnostic so it should work on any display device. Won't really solve your original problem but it should improve performance a bit without having to use full vsync.

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