Corsair have just sent me notice that another RAM kit is being delivered to me. I do not know which version of kit it is. I assume it is another Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz 4x16GB kit as I have no responses to the technical information and questions I requested w.r.t the differences between their Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz 4x16GB kit (which makes no claim to support AMD 400 series motherboards on the web page) and their Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 2666MHz 4x16GB kit (which does claim to support AMD 400 series motherboards on the web page).
I will ask again for answers regarding the result of Corsair failure analysis on:
1. The original Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200MHz 4x16GB kit I purchased based on Corsair Memory Selector, where 1 16GB stick fails to pass Memtest86 run at default SPD speed (2133MHz) SPD timing (15-15-15-36 ) and voltage (1.2 Volts) specification.
2. The RMA Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz 4x16GB kit where 3 16GB sticks fails to pass Memtest86 run at default SPD speed (2133MHz) SPD timing (15-15-15-36 ) and voltage (1.2 Volts) specification.
I will update this page with more information when and if I get more answers from Corsair w.r.t which Memory Kit they will be sending me as RMA replacement number 2.
colesdav, I am curious where we find these 400 series MBs? Thanks and enjoy, John.
I do not know which motherboards Corsair tested exactly.
I guess I should have written AMD 400 series chipset motherboards such as Socket AM4 X470 / B450 motherboards.
Thanks.
Thanks, colesdav. I was thinking X499. Enjoy, John.
RE: I will update this page with more information when and if I get more answers from Corsair w.r.t which Memory Kit they will be sending me as RMA replacement number 2.
RMA Replacement kit 2 is another Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz 4x16GB kit.
It arrived 15 hours ago. I immediately installed all 4 sticks. I have been running the first Memtest 86 for the past 13 hours and 40 minutes at at default SPD speed (2133MHz) SPD timing (15-15-15-36 ) and voltage (1.2 Volts) specification.
I will update the Memtest 86 information and testing results summary as soon as I can.
Hi misterj
RE: Please run Thaiphoon Burner to see the chips and XMP profiles available.
Here is the report you requested.
Module Manufacturer: | Corsair |
Module Part Number: | CMW64GX4M4C3200C16 |
Module Series: | Vengeance RGB PRO |
DRAM Manufacturer: | Samsung |
DRAM Components: | K4A8G085WB-BCPB |
DRAM Die Revision / Process Node: | B / 20 nm |
Module Manufacturing Date: | Undefined |
Module Manufacturing Location: | Taiwan |
Module Serial Number: | 00000000h |
Module PCB Revision: | 00h |
Fundamental Memory Class: | DDR4 SDRAM |
Module Speed Grade: | DDR4-2133P downbin |
Base Module Type: | UDIMM (133.35 mm) |
Module Capacity: | 16384 MB |
Reference Raw Card: | B0 (8 layers) |
JEDEC Raw Card Designer: | Micron Technology |
Module Nominal Height: | 31 < H <= 32 mm |
Module Thickness Maximum, Front: | 1 < T <= 2 mm |
Module Thickness Maximum, Back: | 1 < T <= 2 mm |
Number of DIMM Ranks: | 2 |
Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM: | Mirrored |
DRAM Device Package: | Standard Monolithic |
DRAM Device Package Type: | 78-ball FBGA |
DRAM Device Die Count: | Single die |
Signal Loading: | Not specified |
Number of Column Addresses: | 10 bits |
Number of Row Addresses: | 16 bits |
Number of Bank Addresses: | 2 bits (4 banks) |
Bank Group Addressing: | 2 bits (4 groups) |
DRAM Device Width: | 8 bits |
Programmed DRAM Density: | 8 Gb |
Calculated DRAM Density: | 8 Gb |
Number of DRAM components: | 16 |
DRAM Page Size: | 1 KB |
Primary Memory Bus Width: | 64 bits |
Memory Bus Width Extension: | 0 bits |
DRAM Post Package Repair: | Not supported |
Soft Post Package Repair: | Not supported |
Fine Timebase: | 0.001 ns |
Medium Timebase: | 0.125 ns |
CAS Latencies Supported: | 7T, 8T, 9T, 10T, 11T, 12T, 13T, 14T, 15T, 16T, 17T, 18T, 19T, 20T, 21T, 22T, 23T, 24T |
Minimum Clock Cycle Time (tCK min): | 0.938 ns (1066.10 MHz) |
Maximum Clock Cycle Time (tCK max): | 1.500 ns (666.67 MHz) |
CAS# Latency Time (tAA min): | 13.500 ns |
RAS# to CAS# Delay Time (tRCD min): | 13.500 ns |
Row Precharge Delay Time (tRP min): | 13.500 ns |
Active to Precharge Delay Time (tRAS min): | 33.000 ns |
Act to Act/Refresh Delay Time (tRC min): | 46.500 ns |
Normal Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC1 min): | 350.000 ns |
2x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC2 min): | 260.000 ns |
4x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC4 min): | 160.000 ns |
Short Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD_S min): | 3.700 ns |
Long Row Active to Row Active Delay (tRRD_L min): | 5.300 ns |
Long CAS to CAS Delay Time (tCCD_L min): | 5.356 ns |
Four Active Windows Delay (tFAW min): | 21.000 ns |
Maximum Active Window (tMAW): | 8192*tREFI |
Maximum Activate Count (MAC): | Unlimited MAC |
DRAM VDD 1.20 V operable/endurant: | Yes/Yes |
Module Thermal Sensor: | Incorporated |
SPD Revision: | 1.0 |
SPD Bytes Total: | 512 |
SPD Bytes Used: | 384 |
SPD Checksum (Bytes 00h-7Dh): | 491Ch (OK) |
SPD Checksum (Bytes 80h-FDh): | 27DEh (OK) |
JEDEC DIMM Label: | 16GB 2Rx8 PC4-2133P-UB0-10 |
Frequency | CAS | RCD | RP | RAS | RC | RRDS | RRDL | CCDL | FAW |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1067 MHz | 24 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 23 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 22 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 21 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 20 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 19 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 18 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 17 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 16 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
1067 MHz | 15 | 15 | 15 | 36 | 50 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 23 |
933 MHz | 14 | 13 | 13 | 31 | 44 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 20 |
933 MHz | 13 | 13 | 13 | 31 | 44 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 20 |
800 MHz | 12 | 11 | 11 | 27 | 38 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 17 |
800 MHz | 11 | 11 | 11 | 27 | 38 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 17 |
667 MHz | 10 | 9 | 9 | 22 | 31 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 14 |
667 MHz | 9 | 9 | 9 | 22 | 31 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 14 |
667 MHz | 8 | 9 | 9 | 22 | 31 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 14 |
667 MHz | 7 | 9 | 9 | 22 | 31 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 14 |
Profiles Revision: 2.0 | ||
Profile 1 (Certified) Enables: Yes | ||
Profile 2 (Extreme) Enables: No | ||
Profile 1 Channel Config: 2 DIMM/channel | ||
XMP Parameter | Profile 1 | Profile 2 |
---|---|---|
Speed Grade: | DDR4-3200 | N/A |
DRAM Clock Frequency: | 1600 MHz | N/A |
Module VDD Voltage Level: | 1.35 V | N/A |
Minimum DRAM Cycle Time (tCK): | 0.625 ns | N/A |
CAS Latencies Supported: | 24T,23T,22T,21T, 20T,19T,18T,17T, 16T,15T,14T,13T, 12T,11T,10T,9T,8T,7T | N/A |
CAS Latency Time (tAA): | 16T | N/A |
RAS# to CAS# Delay Time (tRCD): | 18T | N/A |
Row Precharge Delay Time (tRP): | 18T | N/A |
Active to Precharge Delay Time (tRAS): | 36T | N/A |
Active to Active/Refresh Delay Time (tRC): | 54T | N/A |
Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAW): | 36T | N/A |
Short Activate to Activate Delay Time (tRRD_S): | 6T | N/A |
Long Activate to Activate Delay Time (tRRD_L): | 9T | N/A |
Normal Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC1): | 559T | N/A |
2x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC2): | 415T | N/A |
4x mode Refresh Recovery Delay Time (tRFC4): | 255T | N/A |
Thanks. |
colesdav, good results? How does it do at 3200 MHz? Thanks and enjoy, John.
Hi.
I have been able to pass 2 separate Memtest86 tests at 2133 MHz and 3000 MHz with all four sticks in place.
That is much better than I have been able to manage with either of the previous two RAM kits.
I have been able to get the PC to boot and run at 3150 MHz. I am running Memtest86 at that speed with all four sticks in place.
The PC will not boot at 3200 MHz, which is only 50 MHz below the tested speed of the RAM.
There was no point in looking to gain an extra 50MHz if the test at 3150 MHz fails.
I might have to adjust RAM timings a little or modify voltage in BIOS but before I spend any more time on this I just want to see if it can pass or fail at 3150MHz.
I need to do more testing before I can give a definitive answer on this RAM kit I have. I need to run the tests at different CPU load conditions.
Each Memtest86 run is taking 14.5 hours with a full 64GB kit so it will be days before I am confident that there are no issues.
I am still waiting for Corsair response to a number of technical questions I have.
I have asked them to run failure analysis on the previous two kits that had to be returned.
ASUS have offered to request QVL testing for the same setup.
Thanks.
Update.
Memtest86 test at passed at 3150 MHz with with all four 16GB sticks of Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz 4x16GB kit installed on the motherboard.
I tried further testing on the motherboard BIOS settings in an attempt to push the DRAM frequency to 3200MHz and see if i can pass Memtest86 as follows.
(A). Just increasing DDR4 frequency to 3200MHz in BIOS saving to a new profile, loading from that profile and attempt to reboot into the PC fails.
The memory frequency settings get reset to default due to failure to boot.
(B). If I increase VDDSOC
I increased VDDSOC by 0.1 volt as advised by misterj (thanks) and based on other discussions on overclocking forums.
Doing that allows the PC to boot up with DDR4 frequency set to 3200MHz.
However when I run Memtest86 at this speed it fails early on in the test.
I have stopped testing at this point for today as i am kicking off some more Memtest86 runs at 3150 MHz with different BIOS settings for DIGI+ Power Control.
I will be making my BIOS settings available to both Corsair and ASUS via support case once I am happy with the settings I have.
WoW, what a wrestle to get Corsair running and it's not even 3200?!
Kingston Predator ram is running 3200 (1600Mhz) here just fine on my 2700x