PC Graphics

[icarusfell]

My new Sapphire Nitro+ 9070XT performs poorly in most games, even though in some games it shows me the reasonable amount of FPS, it feels choppy like 40-60 fps. In some games my gpu doesn't exceed 100W. For reference this is my build:

My specs:
CPU: R7 5800X
RAM: 4x8GB 3600MHz DDR4 Corsair Vengeance
MOBO: Asus B550 F-GAMING
GPU: Sapphire Nitro+ 9070xt
PSU: Corsair RM1000e
Resolution: 2560x1440

I've used DDU a couple times and I've also tried the compatible driver versions for 9000 series, and still nothing. For instance, while playing league of legends, I get around 100-130 fps which is bad for my pc and it drops onto 40s which is horrible, while the 100+ fps in itself feel like 60 and the power usage is under 100W. Similar for CS2, now I know that this game is heavily CPU bound, however, I can't even hit 200 fps in menu and in-game, where I'm supposed to hit over 300fps easily and it eats barely 200W. Similarly on MH Wilds, something more demanding, the game runs well however it gets very choppy most of the times, and I haven't even seen it draw 300W, just around 200W-250W. I've ran FurMark and Steel Nomad, and the gpu draws its tdp without any issues. 

It's becoming pretty annoying to no be able to play anything and enjoy. I don't game as much anymore so you can imagine how frustrating it is to dump a bunch of money on a new gpu and not work the only time you're trying to enjoy your time.

Even if it could be bottlenecking, it still doesn't explain the fps drops and choppiness in games such as cyberpunk, the game ran anywhere between 60-90 fps at 1440p on all high and the FSR didn't seem to work. The game was choppy as well, I know that I'm supposed to get around 120-140 fps on native 1440p all maxed out, but thats not the case. Or in Arma 3 where my GPU doesn't get over 100W and it stays at 60-80fps. And let's say it is a cpu bottleneck, it shouldn't make my pc perform games worse than my previous gpus.

I had a 6750XT, everything was performing very well and I had no issues for the time I had it which was around 3 years, I decided to upgrade and before the 9070XT came out I got a good deal on a 7900XT, it performed well with no issues for around a month, however the card was defect so I had to get a refund and then I bought a 9070 xt when it came out. I confirmed the problem it was on the GPU's side with the 7900xt because it had defect clock speed and made my drivers crash. Opposed to that, my 6750xt worked well regardless even after I returned the 7900xt, so I ruled out the option that my system is at fault. As for AAA games, I was curious how this gpu runs cyberpunk however I was met with disappointment as the game ran anywhere between 60-90 fps at 1440p on all high and the FSR didn't seem to work. The game was choppy as well, I know that I'm supposed to get around 120-140 fps on native 1440p all maxed out, but thats not the case. I'm kind off confused since like I said, all stress tests are able to use my gpu at its full potential and I've never had a CPU issue before or anything in this matter.

I pretty much narrowed it down to the CPU bottleneck since I don't seem to find any other explanation when everything in my system is working well, kinda unfortunate to get hit so hard by "bottleneck" but the 5800x is pretty old hardware compared to the 9070 xt and I expected that bottleneck would happen if I do get this gpu, just not at this scale. I do believe that AMD could fix some of this with driver updates to improve AM4 performance with the 9000 series.

For reference, I got a total score of 22 106, Graphics Score: 27 837 with CPU Score: 10 203 on timespy. And to be sure I tested my CPU in cinebench and got 13343 (30 minute test) which is like a perfect score for the 5800x. Nothing out of the ordinary really, everything ran cool.

[tokiohotelfan]

the same problem. I think the problem is with power management. I also see 100 watts in most games. BUT I think it's reasonable - why bother more if I get 144 fps. But stutters are very frustrating. I haven't seen anything like that on my old 1080ti.

[Gamer82]

EDIT: Just noticed this GPU might benefit of PCI-Express 5 x16 slot atleast for some games. Which AM4  cannot do as far as I know. So you would need to upgrade system for that. See this video: RX 9070 XT | PCIE 3.0 vs PCIE 4.0 vs PCIE 5.0 | Performance Test or RX 9070 XT | PCIe 5.0 vs PCIe 4.0 vs PCIe 3.0 | PCI Express x16

You have 8 cores in that CPU it should be fine. 

Faster CPU is generally going to give more fps if you are CPU limited. If you are GPU limited (~95-100% GPU usage)then a faster CPU not generally going to give more fps. To gain most fps on particular system you would have to be CPU limited all the time (GPU usage less than maybe 90% all the time). Also turn off ray tracing if you want to max the fps.

Something you can try:

-make sure you are using latest WHQL drivers for chipset and GPU and Windows is up to date. I would suggest using Windows 11 for gaming.

-make sure Raytracing is off (is many times very demanding on AMD GPU's and also demanding on the CPU)

-make sure you have SAM enabled (check Adrenalin -> Smart Technology)

-Make sure you have Pci-Express 4 x16 enabled and the gpu is installed in the topmost pci-express x16 slot  (can use gpu-z or hwinfo for example)

-make sure you are not maxing GPU VRAM by checking task manager -> performance -> gpu or gpu-z or hwinfo while in game

-Try using Radeon Performance Overlay (ctrl+shift+o) to see if you are about 99% GPU Usage. If GPU usage is over 95% your fps are probably being limited by the GPU. 

-to reduce stutters you can try enable freesync, cap fps with chill to 60-120fps, use amd fluid motion frames (if using fluid motion frames you should cap fps to max 50% of monitor hz so you are always in the freesync zone) and enable vsync.

-Try toggling Radeon Performance Overlay ON of OFF (ctrl+shift+o) as it can also tank performance in some scenarios: [SOLVED] - 9070 XT runs terrible ? | Tom's Hardware Forum

To test if GPU or CPU is performing like normal in games you can see these video and try to match the settings and see if your system can match the performance. You also must match the ingame scenario (for example in cs2 you have to do the bots in wingman, cyberpunk must use benchmark etc). 

RX 9070 vs RTX 4070 Ti Super vs RX 9070 XT vs RTX 5070 Ti | Ryzen 7 7800x3D | Tested in 15 games - Y... (you have to be 99% GPU to compare GPU performance so run the games 4k using virtual super resolution if necessary)

Ryzen 7 5800X + RTX 4090 - Big Bottleneck? - YouTube (To test pure CPU performance drop resolution to 720p for example to make sure you are not GPU limited.)