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Exemplar
Exemplar

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

"ctually DLSS tech isn't going away and if you have seen DLSS 2, I can't imagine how you can say it looks bad. "

 

Well, he didn't say it looks bad, just that it doesn't look as good as native, which it doesn't.

 

"The truth is that DLSS is the future it isn't going away"  It really isn't the future, there is just way to much overhead in building those libraries to get it to work well.  So it is only worth doing in some AAA games and big releases to help push video cards but it will never be a highly supported feature, it's just too much work.  

"This is why AMD is developing their own Super Sampling tech"

To be clear, DLSS isn't supersampling, it's upscaling.  Supersampling is rendering at a higher resolution and scaling down to the the display.  That will always look better than DLSS or native, but has huge performance costs as your hardware actually renders above your native resolution.  I think once GPU hardware can supersample at 4K at 60fps there will likely be little need to spend the time building a DLSS library.

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Big Boss
Big Boss

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

Honestly you are correct, yes upscaling is the better term. It was very late when I posted that. However I have heard tech sites use the lingo fairly interchangeably too. 

In reality DLSS isn't solidly just upscaling either. At least no more so than in what upscaling meant before it was coupled with AI, sharpening, etc.  It is more of a meld of components from both methods combined with new AI technology. Regardless still semantics. As it really doesn't matter as the end result is radically different and better than what either of those did alone. 

When whatever DLSS becomes when a final Open Standard evolves it will likely be its own definition and not either of those others. 

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Esteemed Contributor III

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

I do not think full watercooled systems are worth the effort.
I prefer AIO coolers for CPU - easy to replace. 
AIO on GPU can be a pain but at least allow 2 slot form factor and still ~ portable.
PC cases should allow GPU hoses to exit the case and AIO cooler to mount on exterior of PC case. 

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Exemplar
Exemplar

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

Something they potentially could do, is create a crowd sourced version of this.  You can collect gaming frames from real users who play a title at 4K on an RTX 3090 lets say.  And then use that library for DLSS for RTX 3070 users who have a 4K monitor.  That would make it a lot easier to have libraries of images for a wider variety of title.

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Esteemed Contributor III

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

New AIB RX6800XT  GPU from XFX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSzzVtKzJo

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Big Boss
Big Boss

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.


@colesdav wrote:

New AIB RX6800XT  GPU from XFX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSzzVtKzJo


Sorry this reviewers lost me when he told us how many Cuda cores this AMD card has. LOL

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Journeyman III
Journeyman III

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

I couldn't agree more!  It seems very few reviews want to point out that DLSS is not a true native rendering but rendering at a lower resolution and upscaling with AI help.  It looks fine but if you compare it to a true image, it never looks as good

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Esteemed Contributor III

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

Sure, I posted it just so people can actually take a look at the GPU.

I think you will find that many reviewers make "slips of the tongue" or downright mistakes in their reviews.

If you know anything about him, this reviewer suffers from severe health problems and has been struggling to keep his channel going.

Here is his web page: https://techoftomorrow.com/

He did excellent review of the Sapphire HD7970 OC 6GB GHz editions years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpffVqgJH8U

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Esteemed Contributor III

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.

Gamers Nexus are currently running a Twitter Poll.

After reviews, which GPU would you purchase?

RTX 3080   = 50.9%
RX6800XT  = 23.7%
RTX3070    = 18.8%
RX6800      = 6.6%

The poll is still open so you can vote.

"https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1330377328254480390?s=20"

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Big Boss
Big Boss

Re: RDNA2, RDNA Refresh, and "Big Navi" Launch and Reviews.


@colesdav wrote:

Sure, I posted it just so people can actually take a look at the GPU.

I think you will find that many reviewers make "slips of the tongue" or downright mistakes in their reviews.

If you know anything about him, this reviewer suffers from severe health problems and has been struggling to keep his channel going.

Here is his web page: https://techoftomorrow.com/

He did excellent review of the Sapphire HD7970 OC 6GB GHz editions years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpffVqgJH8U

 

I enjoyed his video, I was joking  hence the LOL on the end. 

Thanks I have looked at all the links you gave and appreciate the effort as usual.....