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belgiangenius
Adept I

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

Given my experience with the card, I'm not surprised.  I've never owned a graphics card that crashed so much in games, even at stock settings.

I have a few computers in the house, so I'm always upgrading something.  I'm leaning to buying an Nvidia 3000 series card, assuming their fake launch ever makes the transition to being a real launch and product is actually available.

I'm skeptical of AMD based cards now.  If they would make a fair offer, like anyone who has stability concerns with a 5700 based card can turn it in for a 50% discount on Big Navi, I'd probably take the chance on Big Navi, but otherwise I think my future will lead back to Nvidia.

pokester
MVP

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

Not sure why it doesn't make sense but okay. I only repeated what I read on a couple tech sites as I already said. No my words theirs. However it makes perfect sense to me as to why so many issues still are not fixed, as drivers can only do so much in some cases to mitigate hardware bugs. Hence why well known flaws like spectre and meltdown for instance are so debilitating. I just found it interesting sorry if it makes no sense to you. 

pokester
MVP

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

Also I should add that I never said it was all hardware issues just that hardware issues also exist that may or may not be fixed by software updates. I litter-ally made all the news outlets just a couple days ago that Navi has security flaw that will not be fixed until quarter 1, 2021. I think it is very possible this is the hardware bug the anonymous source was talking about a couple weeks back that I saw on the tech sites. Don't know for sure but it seems it could be as AMD admits the issue causes BSOD. 

Epigene
Journeyman III

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

This advice was spot on. The instability comes from temperature getting too high which in turn comes from too much power being sent towards the GPU.

I ended up lowering GPU max frequency to 1853MHz, and max voltage to 925mV, while overclocking VRAM to 1800MHz. Doing so keeps the card temperature at 65-70 degrees C even under heavy loads, and power consumption at about 130W, down from 200W.

Here's my stable settings:

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colesdav
MVP

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

Try this: 
https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/amd-driver-fix-and-install-using-ddu/m-p/426238

I have been running RX5700XT and they seemed stable for August ~November drivers. 
Almost 3 months!

But the RX5700XT I currently have installed has been crashing and Blackscreening on recent drivers up to and including 20.11.3.

I have just moved to 20.12.1 drivers. 
I am running Windows 10 Pro 2004 with latest patches. 

It seems like Windows 20H2 may be causing problems for AMD Drivers based on reports on this forum. 

Check how much the AMD Drivers are boosting the GPU Clk versus the specification for your GPU on Manufacturers website. 

Try increasing the fan speed and the Power Limit from default. 
 
Good luck. 

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Paaaaaja
Adept I

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

I have RMA my Aorus RX5700XT 3 days ago. Just after I DDU 20.9.1 and installed 20.11.1 in mid of November to get rid of random in-game stutter, I got black screen crashes - especially when I lowered power limit (then it was within minutes). I have tried almost all drivers from 20.5 through 20.7, all since 20.9.1 till 20.11.3. 2x fresh Windows re-installs, many DDUs, nothing helped. So I RMA. I hope for positive outcome:-/ 

I am running Powercolor Red Dragon RX 5700 XT now, was able to snap one in the current GK crisis - now I am 4th day without a crash - hope it will stay that way.

I believe most of the issues described here are hardware ones. I am still curious why my card was running OK till DDU, but this is now beyond my reach.

Charred
Journeyman III

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

I had the same problem for awhile, I tried everything. used DDU multiple times and tried all of the previous drivers, I even only installed just the drivers but nothing worked and even underclocked it to 1999 frequency with 1100 voltage and still nothing worked. Finally i saw a post about underclocking the gpu to 1900 frequency with 1000 voltage its stopped all of my crashes and my temprature arent high. though every time i tweak the other settings it would make my games crash so i wouldnt recommend tweaking the other settings. I did tweak the fan speeds a bit to get lower temps 

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colesdav
MVP

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

They are overclocked out of the box to within an inch of their life to try to compete with Nvidia. 
Usual story with AMD GPUs. 
Some AIB models have Ram running too hot as well, because of poor thermal pads / heatsink design/ coolers falling off. 
Drivers were unstable with blackscreening from launch until August 2020. 
Was o.k. until 2020 20.11.1/2/3. 
2020 20.12.1 seems ok again. 

 

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idiocracy
Adept II

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

I have an RM750, two individual power rails to the card. But i have similar issues. I didn't consider the windows update to be the cause.

But basically i lowered clocks to 1900mhz, but regardless, it still crashes at 1175mV. I just can't seem to get it stable. But if windows is the issue here that would explain a lot.

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YisusRB
Journeyman III

Re: 5700XT just not stable?

Thank you very much, it's been months since I bought the gigabyte rx 5700 xt and see that there was no way to make it stable, all the undelvolts and none accepted it, you are a crack !!!!