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Forerunner
Forerunner

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

Do you think they even take the time to test them out in a system? My guess is that they have special testing equipment of some sort. I doubt if the take the time to apply TIM and cooler, and see if it works.

You could read that result asthey think the chip is good to go, but the email does say replacement. Also, it says test slash inspection, so perhaps it was more of an inspection that the chip is an 1800x and it was an early version.

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

It depends on the role ModusLink plays in the system, if they are the RMA outsouced facility, since all the RMA addresses seem to point to ModusLink, or if they just provide offices for AMD employees to work with their workstations. I also imagine they are using the same workstations they used to check the engineering samples of the chips, as they are most likely designed to test chips thoroughly and provide a very specific result so that AMD can fix any widespread issues which crop up in the next revision, and are most likely cooled with liquid coolers and using thermal tape instead of TIM because it is inexpensive, quick to apply, comes away cleanly, is dirt cheap, and, as TomsHardware has shown us, surprisingly close to ArcticSilver 5 in terms of thermal performance under liquid, more than sufficient for diagnostic testing.

We shall see what happens, but I do have to add that using this Ryzen R3 1300X with my Corsair H115i under full stress for days encoding videos, power consumption of the system is under 120w (monitor off, which should cut power to my Fury Nano as well), and runs extremely cool, granted this cooler is rated for something like 3x the TDP of the 1300x, it's still silent.

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

Hmm... Wasn't cross shipped, yet AMD says it was...

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

So they did indeed send me a brand new processor, with a new product ID (YD180XBCM88AE) and serial number, which is interesting because the part number on the box is the same as the previous, YD180XBCAEWOF, so it's an OEM processor in a retail box. Too bloody tired to put it in tonight, don't want to have to deal with Microsoft BS if they decide to say my key is a MSDN key and to please pay another $206. Probably the least painful RMA experience I've had.

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

Welp, dropped it in, everything's fine, even Windows 10 didn't pitch a fit this time. Even clocks better, 4ghz @ 1.375v, though I got to thinking, since 4ghz is the turbo frequency, is this even technically overclocking?

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bearcat22
Challenger
Challenger

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

Guess it's a matter of opinion. I don't think it's an overclock. To me everything under 4ghz would be an underclock for that cpu. But achieving it with a lower than stock voltage is a bonus clock.

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

Alrighty, so it's been about 2 years since I got this thing. I can no longer run 3.98ghz, and I can't compete a Cinebench R20 run even at reduced frequencies without overheating. There is a possibility the temperatures are related to the age of my TIM, it's a little over 8 years old, as as TomsHardware stated in their TIM roundup review a couple of years ago:

I use IC Diamond, and the tube I bought was the $26 24 Karat size from FrozenCPU, so there is no telling how old it actually is. I have a new tube of the smaller 7 Karat size coming in tomorrow from Amazon, so I'll be able to see if that's really it. I could have just went with MX-4 or AS5, or even Kryonaut, or a graphite pad, it's really all about the same with liquid cooling, but I do like this stuff. Still, if I hit 91*C even after new TIM with this Corsair H115i, I would suspect there's another problem, but I can't replace a 2 year old, $465 processor, with a resale value of less than $150.

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss
Big Boss

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

I will reiterate that most put 10-50x more TIM than is necessary

The defects to be sealed are < 1 micron and you need a microscope to see them

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black_zion
Esteemed Contributor III

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

And as I suspected, that's what it was. 9 year old (or more, who knows how long it was sitting on the shelf) top of the line TIM had degraded to the point of being ineffective, even on a high end closed loop liquid cooler. Replacing it with new Arctic MX-4, which I chose over IC Diamond as you can't use IC Diamond on GPUs and other unshielded chips, and now even under AIDA64 stress testing, it doesn't pass 77*C. Sadly it doesn't enable higher clocks, being first generation Ryzen, but it does serve as a reminder that if your TIM is getting up there in age, it may and probably has degraded on the shelf, even if you stored it in a cool place like a refrigerator.

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss
Big Boss

Re: My Ryzen 1800X Upgrade Diary

i have repaired many a machine for overheating and MX-4 has lasted longer than any machine out there 

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