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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

OK another positive change I see now which I just tested for.

On Adrenalin 17.12.2 and 17.12.1 I was getting a Red Screen of Death and Audio Buzz and PC Freeze and Crash if I used ALT Z or ALT R to enable the Radeon Overlay on some DX11 applications. This occurred consistently on some DX11 games and could also be repeated consistently on my system if I ran the Firestrike Demo. These freezes and crashes were happening with no CPU or GPU overclock.


have just tested for this issue on 18.1.1 Adrenalin Driver and I am glad to say this also seems to be fixed now.
So again the 18.1.1 Adrenalin driver seems to have addressed/fixed these stability issues.

I had reported these issues and previous stability in Firestrike issue using AMD Reporting form. So maybe someone does look at and fix them after all.

I have noticed one strange problem though. I do not know if you can make it out in this picture. I have found that multiple ALT Z or ALT R (~ 7 ) my case leads to the situation where the Radeon Overlay becomes completely transparent. You might be able to make out the blurry RHS menu bar. Changing desktop resolution or refreshing desktop does not seem to help. Logging out and back in is insufficient to fix this issue. A PC reboot is necessary to get the Radeon Overlay to work again.  I will report this.

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Overall though, Adrenalin 18.1.1 is looking much more stable so far for me.

ajlueke
Grandmaster

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

All the Adrenaline based drivers cause extensively long load times in strike playlist load and transit between areas in Destiny 2.  As I am playing a fair amount of that game currently, it's Crimson all the way for me.

pokester
MVP

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

Sorry I should have added or the Max for your card. I suggest this because it seams that AMD has been focused on being able to keep their power requirements as low as they can on paper. However this seems to be starving many cards under load. So increasing to your cards limit may use slightly more power but more importantly may add much needed stability.

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pokester
MVP

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

try disabling fast boot, set your system to high performance and disable overlays. That fixed the stutter issues for me.

noodles59
Miniboss

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

Reminds me - I did run the Sky Diver test again which always crashed due to an DX related error under Win7. Now on WinX and 4K display resolution the test finishes just fine with a score of 19284. 

handsomefox
Adept II

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

Fast boot is not an issue since i did a reboot after installing, and fast boot doesnt apply to reboots. High performance is already set. But what kind of overlays are you talking about, since i really have like 2 apps in background which i tried disabling and it didnt help, is there AMD overlays that i can disable too?

I think its a driver problem in the end,18.1.1 update has less stutters then previous ones for me, so i'm happy that AMD does something and hopefully will fix that in future.

pokester
MVP

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

Under Windows 10 fast boot does apply to reboots in fact the reboot is the only time it 100 percent does. Windows 10 will cache previously loaded data just like if it were coming out of hibernation. This specifically has been known to affect drivers and not just AMD's. Not saying it will fix your issue but is certainly worth a try. I also suggest never using hibernate or hybrid sleep, only plain standby. Windows 10 pretty much is optimized for battery life and laptops. If you have a desktop and don't mind your power usage being a little higher using standby and not using fast boot assures you are never using old data that has been cached and potentially compromised or doesn't load back into ram properly.

On overlays I find that any overlays can cause issues, probably a bit of personal hatred because they have caused issues since their inception, and yes this is certainly an issue AMD needs to figure out, but not necessarily an AMD only issue. I disable overlays in Steam, Origin and any other gaming service that has them. I don't use relive. You can easily test these by doing the same. Doesn't require removing anything just a setting, other than relive would have to be uninstalled if you have it installed. Other than that just don't activate the AMD overlay with the keyboard shortcuts.  May or may not help. Just a variable to eliminate. Trouble shooting is all about eliminating one thing at a time to get things stable.

I am not certain however that many of the so called driver  issues have been born on AMD's side though, although very likely they have to fix it. Many revisions have been made to display specifications as each new Windows 10 upgrade has come out. In fact there seems to be two windows teams that alternate back and forth on the next release. Apparently the left hand doesn't know what the right one is doing over there. I don't think that Microsoft is doing much these days to make everyone and most importantly even the major hardware makers aware of how the changes might affect things. I also think Microsoft doesn't do the testing necessary to ensure that the changes play nice on AMD specifically. From Microsoft's viewpoint the AMD systems are the smallest segment of the entire Windows PC market. It's something silly like 70 percent is Intel only, and of the remaining 30 percent only 10 percent of that is an AMD CPU / GPU setup. So unfortunately many changes are hitting us the worst. Look at how many issues are being reported only after last springs and this falls creators updates. Microsoft's rushing of updates to market greatly differs from the service packs of old which largely worked without issue because the they were properly tested. This is why  Windows 7 is still so prevalent in our corporate environments, because the business world just can't afford to have their machines not work or even worse bricked after an update like what just happened 2 weeks ago to many AMD machines.

You might also want to check out this thread. What does "AMD External Events Utility" service do? contains a solution for Freesync flicker that worked for me.  That's the thread title, it didn't work for me because I have not tried any of it but it seems to have fixed things for many.

So many different issues going on and each has it's own fix. So many of them manifest and present their symptoms in the same way. Hard to know what to do to fix anything, It's definitely frustrating I know.

Good luck and definitely feedback if you do or don't fix it. It will only help others too!

Thanks!

handsomefox
Adept II

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

I don't have overlays at all, only default windows stuff (defender is disabled), also why does the setting in Windows say that fast boot doesn't apply to reboots then? ReLive is uninstalled since it can't record stuff I want to. I don't use freesync too so that issue doesn't apply to me.

Disabled fast boot, opened a game without any overlays (not only overlays, but user apps too) whatsoever, but it still was microfreezing sometimes, although a lot less than before.

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the_doctor
Adept I

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

The only issue I'm having (still) with Command & Conquer 3 is the tiberium having this pink effect to it which generally means missing textures.  Anyone else heard anymore about this? I've seen a few people complaining about it around the forums.

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you use Adrenalin Edition 18.1.1??

Which GPU are you using? What are your system specifications?

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