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hardtecnica
Adept II

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Same thing about Power Efficiency option for RX480 and others supported, they are playing the mute because it's not an popular feature and **** the few who use it.

drallim
Elite

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Chill often doesn't work at all, especially in menus, no other limiter has this problem.

FRTC has more consistent frame delivery. When recording gameplay with relive or obs, FRTC produces smooth output, other frame limiters produce stuttery output. Same when trying to match framerate with a non-freesync monitor's refresh rate.

They are different technologies that use different methods and behave differently. People like to pretend that Chill is just a better version of FRTC, but it's not the case.

Not sure why you linked that video, all it shows is that Chill has worse input lag than Overwatch's in-game limiter, yet another reason not to use chill. What does that have to do with FRTC.

tfninja
Adept I

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Chill is bad and I will not move from 19.12.1 until FRTC is back.

With 100hz freesync monitor i set games i can comfortably play faster to 80 FPS and it is constant, lovely and slick.

With the new drivers if I try to lock fps at 80 using min/max chill, it's a stuttery mess.

Besides the lack of existing features, I also hate the new arrangement and ingame overlay.

lhorace
Adept II

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Funny thing, I could never get FRTC work in any games that I played. Used Riva Statistics server isntead.

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blackmaninc
Adept II

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Yeah this Riva Stat Server works like a charm. It maintains a smooth, steady 60 fps in 'Squad'. 

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riekopo
Adept I

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

I came upon this thread when trying to find FRTC in the Radeon driver. I am really annoyed they removed it for no good reason. Extremely stupid decision and it's clear many people agree because there are a million complaints about it. Now just another feature that Nvidia has that AMD doesn't. 

I have written to AMD and Tweeted at them etc about putting FRTC back in. I encourage everyone to use the "Launch Bug Report Tool" in the top right corner of the Radeon software. Tell them you want FRTC back. 

Also, I have a question about Chill. My monitor is a 144Hz monitor. But for some reason when I activate Chill it sets my maximum FPS to 140FPS. Does anyone know why it is doing that? Doesn't make sense to me. Think it might be a software bug?

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antionn
Adept II

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?


@hardtecnica wrote:

Same thing about Power Efficiency option for RX480 and others supported, they are playing the mute because it's not an popular feature and **** the few who use it.


 

Hi,

It isn't activated by default for RX580 ?
Because the comportement of them looks to be similar to RX480 with the option activated.

 

Anyway, it's what I observed since I flashed my 480 with a 580 BIOS ... but yeah, they could let the choice to the users to activate or not in any case ... but looks like something usual now ...

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antionn
Adept II

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?


@riekopo wrote:

I came upon this thread when trying to find FRTC in the Radeon driver. I am really annoyed they removed it for no good reason. Extremely stupid decision and it's clear many people agree because there are a million complaints about it. Now just another feature that Nvidia has that AMD doesn't. 

I have written to AMD and Tweeted at them etc about putting FRTC back in. I encourage everyone to use the "Launch Bug Report Tool" in the top right corner of the Radeon software. Tell them you want FRTC back. 

Also, I have a question about Chill. My monitor is a 144Hz monitor. But for some reason when I activate Chill it sets my maximum FPS to 140FPS. Does anyone know why it is doing that? Doesn't make sense to me. Think it might be a software bug?


 

A feature AMD had before nVidia, and now don't have. It's even more stupid ...

Chill set by default maximum to 140 for everyone, like FRTC set at 60. Just the default value, but you can change it.
Anyway, it's not obviously a bad thing to keep it to a sligtly lower value as you screen (if you have Freesync), because like it's not lock precisely everytime (and less far than FRTC, when Chill works ...) that avoid to move out from the Freesync range.



But if you want to continue to use FRTC with new UI, you can by modifying some registry :
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
Then, modify this three value like that (in decimal value) :
- KMD_FRTCInitialStatus : 1
- KMDFRTEnabled : 1
- KMD_MaxFrameRateRequested : the amount of FPS you want to limit

That works like Global Setting in practice.

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colesdav
MVP

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Global FRTC control is back in Adrenalin 2020 21.3.1 Driver for RX5700XT -> R9 390X. 
This is great news. 

It works with Radeon Chill do you can set FRTC = 59, Chill min FPS = 30 Chill max "FPS" = 300 and run an RX Vega 64 Liquid on BFV at 4K Ultra with ~ reasonable 59 FPS 4K Experience with Vsync off. 

Now  all Radeon Team need to do is adjust chill behaviour so that you can hit more than 55 FPS with those settings with keyboard only input. 

Please mark this as the correct answer. 

Thanks.

colesdav
MVP

Re: What happened to Frame Rate Target Control?

Global FRTC control is back in Adrenalin 2020 21.3.1 Driver for RX5700XT -> R9 390X. 
This is great news. 

It works with Radeon Chill do you can set FRTC = 59, Chill min FPS = 30 Chill max "FPS" = 300 and run an RX Vega 64 Liquid on BFV at 4K Ultra with ~ reasonable 59 FPS 4K Experience with Vsync off. 

Now  all Radeon Team need to do is adjust chill behaviour so that you can hit more than 55 FPS with those settings with keyboard only input. 

Please mark this as the correct answer. 

Thanks.