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lfx64
Adept III

The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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This was supposed to be resolved months ago when the zero RPM fan wasn't available during custom fan curves unless you messed around with the ini. This is still the case, only for me now it's the opposite and I don't want it. I've set a custom fan curve and I've noticed that when I cold-boot, the profile isn't applying properly and my fan is at 0rpm (the same is reported in HWInfo64) - it kicks into life just fine when playing games just like the default zero RPM profile so the card doesn't cook, but I want my baseline fan speed!

My overclock is applied all of the time (which is completely stable btw and has been for ages) but my baseline fan RPM don't initiate unless I load the profile and apply it again - this should be applying successfully on start-up! Now a lot of people want zero RPM fans and admittedly months ago I'd of liked the same when using a custom fan curve. However these days I don't want it because I like to have the idle temps even lower. My aggressive fan curve limits heat output and means my 3700X shaves off a few degrees at peak temps.

In the picture provided the RPM is at 772 RPM but usually it says 0 RPM after booting up the PC. Since booting today I've already loaded the profile, hence the fans are abiding by the custom fan profile and I couldn't nab a screenshot of it showing 0.

AMD you need to fix this fan problem. It seems to me that there's been a bunch of fan oriented issues for ages now. You need to focus on allowing Zero RPM in custom fan curves -- but genuinely and not by this unintentional glitch -- and please fix profiles not applying properly at start-up!

Edit: Old drivers, DDU + safemode, new drivers, etc, confirmed that AMD have not fixed the issue and the only time a minimum fan speed setting is observed (18%) is when the system boots from a solid cold boot cycle or when restart is selected from the menu (which cycles a cold boot). At any time the system wakes from sleep, hibernation, or that weird off-but-not-truly-off mode when selecting Shutdown from the Windows menu, the minimum 18% fan speed is never adhered to (even after gaming and the GPU returns to a low temperature). The only way to get around this is: never put your computer to sleep and never use Shutdown from the Windows start menu, instead you must press Shift + Restart and then click Turn Off My Computer - only then will a cold boot initiate upon the next start-up and the custom fan profile is properly applied. You must also sacrifice sleep mode. OR you can do the annoying thing and have to open the Radeon software and apply the custom profile you made every single time you wake your system from sleep mode or are booting from a soft state. Bad AMD! Naughty AMD!

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lfx64
Adept III

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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Okay, to end this hijacked thread... TL;DR? AMD fan profiles do not work properly and have not been fixed for ages. These profiles either do not adhere to Zero RPM settings or the minimum 18% baseline for custom fan curves. The newest Radeon driver software (20.7.1) that claims to fix these issues, DOES NOT.

Fix your drivers. End of.

Edit: Confirmed. A cold boot, whether using older drivers or these new ones = the fan profile applies correctly and the minimum 18% fan speed is adhered to. HOWEVER, waking from SLEEP mode or starting up from Windows' fake shut down state (aka not pressing Shift + Restart + Turn Off My Computer prior to booting later on) = fans are at 0% until gaming, ignoring the baseline RPM of 18% on the desktop but adhering to the upper markers on the custom fan curve - when the GPU cools down, it goes back to ignoring the minimum 18% baseline and goes into Zero RPM mode - this could be a conflict with GPU BIOS settings. Basically, Radeon Software fails to apply the correct fan speed and ignores the 18% minimum fan speed on all PC start-up states apart from a total cold boot. It has not been fixed in the recent driver update. Unacceptable.

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lfx64
Adept III

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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I just turned the computer on and remembered to check the Radeon software and not apply the profile before a screenshot, so here's a new image. See here... check the custom fan curve. Note that profiles contain the entire array of settings, so in my case, the overclock (1450 / 2200 / PL +12% / etc) as well as the fan profile. All of the overclocking is successfully applied on boot, the custom fan curve (at least at the zero RPM phase) is not. I want my minimum 18% baseline fan speed at P1 but I'm not getting it unless I manually load the saved custom profile again.

Please fix this issue in future versions of the software.Radeon Broken Software 002.png

hardcoregames_
Big Boss

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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Try DDU and clean up the drivers and install 20.5.1 fresh

get back here after this if there is a further problem

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lfx64
Adept III

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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I've done that before and I'm not doing it again as it won't remedy the problem.

Just to note, I believe that it only happens some of the time. From cold boots, it loads properly. I think the issue lies with Windows when it starts up from it's weird combo shutdown state (not sleep mode but not the shift + restart > turn off my computer mode) AND likewise with the actual sleep state option.

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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lfx64 wrote:

I've done that before and I'm not doing it again as it won't remedy the problem.

 

Just to note, I believe that it only happens some of the time. From cold boots, it loads properly. I think the issue lies with Windows when it starts up from it's weird combo shutdown state (not sleep mode but not the shift + restart > turn off my computer mode) AND likewise with the actual sleep state option.

BIOS bugs, driver bugs and windows bugs are all a headache for me, you and bunch of others.

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lfx64
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Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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Throughout the day I've taken care to note when it occurs. Each time the computer starts from a non-cold startup or wakes from genuine sleep mode, the fan profile fails to load but the overclock does. It's only when I do a full cold boot that the entirety of the profile loads.

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss

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lfx64 wrote:

Throughout the day I've taken care to note when it occurs. Each time the computer starts from a non-cold startup or wakes from genuine sleep mode, the fan profile fails to load but the overclock does. It's only when I do a full cold boot that the entirety of the profile loads.

My motherboard handles the fan headers in the BIOS. It seems to be reset every time I update the BIOS.

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lfx64
Adept III

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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All bios chips do these days but the OS takes over an software that controls fan profiles should be able to successfully apply settings after start up.

Radeon software should handle this and get it right. Lots of other pieces of software get it right. Radeon software seems to apply it once and then doesn't attempt to reapply settings after startup (non cold boot) and waking from sleep. How difficult would it be for the software to reapply settings after wake? 

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss

Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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With my RX 480 and 20.5.1 the fans all worked as expected.

Are you using anything like MSI Afterburner?

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lfx64
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Re: The Radeon Software still doesn't handle fans properly.

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Nah, I only ever used Radeon software. About a year ago I used MSI and I had used it many times before with other cards but I stopped one day because MSI launched and pegged my fan speed at 100% for zero reason (it was not set to that in the profile, it simply bugged out). What annoys me is that AMD Radeon software and its features have improved a lot over recent years and it can do everything that I need and it does it very well, BUT, fundamentally it falls flat with custom fan curves and profile handling. I replied to another thread here earlier by somebody who is experiencing the exact same issue as me.

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