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HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

Hi guys,

Before updating to Fall creators update I was running the Creators update and I could use HBCC to increase my GPU VRAM while aying DCS 2.2 on my MSI RX VEGA 64 Wave.

Since updating Windows 10 to FCU whenever I try and use HBCC segmentation DCS 2.2 crashes after loading my plane and after a second it crashes.

After doing the segmentation the GPU VRAM available changes in the Task Manager from 8GB to 12GB but the system RAM is still showing 16GB, shouldn't it show 12GB available system RAM?

My system memory is  2x 8GB KIngston total 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (10-10-10-27).

Is there something in FCU that is causing the issue, I used the latest DDUv17.0.8.0 after uninstalling the Radeon Drivers  and reinstalled 17.11.4 so driver install should be good, DDU deactivates automatic hardware driver updates since after updating to FCU even if you have edited a group policy to stop automatic hardware updates only after using DDU does it stop doing it itself and stays on the Microsoft Basic driver, there is a message in DDU telling you of this that I haven't seen before.

Please help fix this issue as at 2560x1440p 2xMSSA DCS 2.2 it can use 7.9-8GB VRAM just doing a quick dogfight in the Spitfire!

Please let me know if you guys need any more info from me regarding my setup.

EDIT: This important info I added from a post on the 26/12/17.

I reverted Radeon settings to 17.10.1 and DCS 2.2 didn't crash with 12 GB segmentation on my RX Vega64. I think I know why I thought it was Windows 10 FCU because the next driver has FCU support and I installed it when I first tried Windows 10 FCU but DCS was crashing as I had HBCC on, I think it will happen with 17.10.2 I will test possibly tomorrow.

So it is the driver at fault and not the game, I guess that is good to know.

Radeon Software Version - 17.11.4

Radeon Software Edition - Crimson ReLive

Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX Vega

High Bandwidth Cache Size - 8176 MB

High Bandwidth Cache Type - HBM2

Core Clock - 1750 MHz

Windows Version - Windows 10 (64 bit)

System Memory - 16 GB

CPU Type - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz

Radeon Settings Version - 2017.1127.1953.35761

Driver Packaging Version - 17.40.2511.1015-171127a1-320995E-CrimsonReLive

Provider - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

2D Driver Version - 8.1.1.1624

Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01304

OpenGL® Version - 6.14.10.13497

OpenCL™ Version - 23.20.793.1024

AMD Mantle Version - Not Available

AMD Mantle API Version - Not Available

AMD Audio Driver Version - 10.0.1.6

Vulkan™ Driver Version - 1.7.0

Vulkan™ API Version - 1.0.54

Graphics Card Manufacturer - Built by AMD

Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX Vega

Device ID - 687F

Vendor ID - 1002

SubSystem ID - 0B36

SubSystem Vendor ID - 1002

Revision ID - C0

Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0

Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16

BIOS Version - 016.001.001.000

BIOS Part Number - 113-D0500500-104

BIOS Date - 2017/08/11 17:31

High Bandwidth Cache Size - 8176 MB

High Bandwidth Cache Type - HBM2

High Bandwidth Cache Clock - 945 MHz

Core Clock - 1750 MHz

High Bandwidth Cache Bandwidth - 483 GByte/s

Memory Bit Rate - 1.89 Gbps

2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000

Piriform Speccy Summary

Operating System

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

CPU

Intel Core i7 4770K @ 3.50GHz 36 °C

Haswell 22nm Technology

RAM

16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (10-10-10-27)

Motherboard

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. MAXIMUS VI FORMULA (SOCKET 1150) 34 °C

Graphics

BenQ XL2730Z (2560x1440@144Hz)

8176MB ATI Radeon RX Vega (ATI) 28 °C

Storage

1863GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA200 (SATA) 38 °C

2794GB TOSHIBA DT01ACA300 (SATA) 38 °C

232GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB (SSD) 28 °C

465GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 500GB (SSD) 34 °C

Optical Drives

No optical disk drives detected

Audio

Realtek High Definition Audio

Thanks AMD and anyone else helping with this issue.

Kind Regards

Astrix_au

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

DCS 2.2 still crashing with HBCC segmentation turned on to 12GB on the latest 17.12.1 drivers

Radeon Software Version - 17.12.1

Radeon Software Edition - Adrenalin

Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX Vega

High Bandwidth Cache Size - 8176 MB

High Bandwidth Cache Type - HBM2

Core Clock - 1750 MHz

Windows Version - Windows 10 (64 bit)

System Memory - 16 GB

CPU Type - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz

Radeon Settings Version - 2017.1206.1740.31787

Driver Packaging Version - 17.50.02-171206a-321058C-RadeonSoftwareAdrenalin

Provider - Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

2D Driver Version - 8.1.1.1634

Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01316

OpenGL® Version - 6.14.10.13506

OpenCL™ Version - 23.20.15002.11

AMD Audio Driver Version - 10.0.1.6

Vulkan™ Driver Version - 2.0.1

Vulkan™ API Version - 1.0.65

Graphics Card Manufacturer - Built by AMD

Graphics Chipset - Radeon RX Vega

Device ID - 687F

Vendor ID - 1002

SubSystem ID - 0B36

SubSystem Vendor ID - 1002

Revision ID - C0

Bus Type - PCI Express 3.0

Current Bus Settings - PCI Express 3.0 x16

BIOS Version - 016.001.001.000

BIOS Part Number - 113-D0500500-104

BIOS Date - 2017/08/11 17:31

High Bandwidth Cache Size - 8176 MB

High Bandwidth Cache Type - HBM2

High Bandwidth Cache Clock - 945 MHz

Core Clock - 1750 MHz

High Bandwidth Cache Bandwidth - 483 GByte/s

Memory Bit Rate - 1.89 Gbps

2D Driver File Path - /REGISTRY/MACHINE/SYSTEM/ControlSet001/Control/Class/{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}/0000

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

Is anyone else able to use HBCC segmentation with DCS 2.x running Windows 10 64 bit Fall Creators Update? Mine crashes after it loads the plane and I'm about to start flying.

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

I think it's only crashing when I select dogfight, weird it doesn't crash without HBCC or if I chose to fly a FW190 quick mission landing, that didn't crash, tried dogfight and it ended up crashing like the spitfire did instantly. Each plane has around 5 quick missions, free fight, landing, takeoff, cold start and dogfight from memory. I think it might be the dogfight missions when running HBCC. I'll do more testing.

EDIT: It's crashing on the spitfires landing mission too

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

@ray_m I reverted Radeon settings to 17.10.1 and DCS 2.2 didn't crash with 12 GB segmentation on my RX Vega64. I think I know why I thought it was Windows 10 FCU because the next driver has FCU support and I installed it when I first tried Windows 10 FCU but DCS was crashing as I had HBCC on, I think it will happen with 17.10.2 I will test possibly tomorrow.

So it is the driver at fault and not the game, I guess that is good to know.

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

Glad to have finally found what was causing it, I wasted so much time doing a fresh install during my holidays going back to work tomorrow I hardly gamed at all

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Elite
Elite

Re: HBCC M segment is crashing DCS 2.2 on Windows 10 64bit FCU 17.11.4

Its' still crashing with Normandy and the Spitfire dogfight quick mission with HBCC segmentation on the latest DCS/2.5.2.18307 and using AMD 18.5.2 driver. The F/A-18 carrier takeoff mission didn't crash at all and I had 14GB BBCC segmentation on my 8GB RX Vega 64 liquid. Below are the crash files for the spitfire dogfight crash.

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