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kingfish
MVP

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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That is not a desktop graphics chip...it is a cut-down Mobility graphics. There are differences. Laptops are not made to be overclocked.

Asus ROG Strix GL702ZC (Ryzen 7 1700, Radeon RX 580) Laptop Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

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deksman2
Adept II

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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It's a desktop gpu chip modified to work in a laptop which is soldered to

the motherboard.

The main difference is that it's clocks are running 20% lower than the

desktop RX 580 with 4GB.

No real cut downs as far as hardware itself goes considering the actual

performance is about 10% below the desktop version (which is accounted with

the clock differential).

A real cut down would mean the chip has less ROP's for example, less stream

processors, etc. All of the hardware is basically the same as the desktop

RX 580 with 4GB except the clock frequency.

As for the argument that laptops were not meant to be overclocked... why do

people automatically assume overclocking when Wattman is concerned?

All I want is UNDERVOLTING enabled on stock clocks.

Also, laptops can EASILY be overclocked and withstand it... anyone who is

interested in laptop modding would first undervolt the hardware to improve

efficiency and get rid of thermal throttling that inept OEM's put in there

because they couldn't be bothered to design a proper cooling assembly for

the hardware in question, and then they might try overclocking - only if it

brings real performance difference for a marginal or no increase in

temperature or power consumption.

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kingfish
MVP

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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Regardless...no laptop currently offers Wattman. If you want to explain your reasoning..explain it to the OEM. I'm sure they would be happy to explain it to you.

Recommendation:

AMD recommends using the graphics drivers provided by your notebook's manufacturer as the manufacturer may customize the drivers to support the built-in display and the features and functions specific to the notebook. Customized graphics drivers are available for download from most notebook manufacturer's web site.

If the current operating system is not the version originally installed on the notebook it may not meet all requirements and compatible graphics drivers may not be available. Please refer to the notebook manufacturer for supported operating systems and drivers.

AMD Mobility Radeon™ Graphics Driver:

AMD provides a reference for AMD Mobility Radeon graphics drivers with limited support for notebook specific features and functions. This is not intended to be used as a replacement for the notebook manufacturer's driver.

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deksman2
Adept II

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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Wouldn't make an ounce of difference even if I tried as OEM's can be rather stubborn like that and they stop releasing new drivers pretty much after the orginal ones were supplied on their website (except potentially the BIOS).

Also, using the original drivers as provided by Asus is a waste of time since they also don't have Wattman enabled.

Freesync is fully functional with the new drivers if one uses an express install, and I guess I will have to stick with MSI afterburner for the undervolt.

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fuzzy
Journeyman III

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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I found a work around to make wattman work.. installed current drivers, 18.3.4, radeon overlay and chill work but no wattman. Install msi afterburner and change a few settings, and apply.  Now open radeon and wattman should be available. Not all features work, but if you make custom profiles for each game, you are given full clock and voltage control in those menus. I think you can uninstall msi after, but I intend to leave it because you'll likely need it next time you update drivers.

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Meteorhead
Challenger

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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Finally! Not all heroes wear capes...

Can you tell me how you managed to pull this off? I installed MSI Afterburner (newest), but when I cap the temperature or clock and click apply, it jumps back to stock values immediately. I open Radeon Settings, but there's no WattMan either. Did you have to enable kernel-mode settings in Afterburner to make any significant changes? I really don't want to mess things up, I too am only after downclocking the notebook to make it more silent in late night gaming sessions.

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bazwyn
Journeyman III

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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I got it:  after installing MSI afterburner, and playing with it, it didnt seem to work because everything was enabled and no change to the lack of wattman, but after I fully disabled all options(and I mean, all, one by one) in the afterburner main settings page, then reenabled them as seen in the images(the enabling of the io settings had to happen first followed by afterburner restarting, then after reloading the afterburner disabled the ULPS and rebooted the pc) when it came back up, wattman had reappeared and afterburner is also working without conflict, though I intend to remove afterburner for now as my desired outcome was to have a working wattman again.

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bazwyn
Journeyman III

Re: GL702ZC - Wattman doesn't exist in drivers?

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thanks for this, I had wattman before my driver update, and after they rolled out 18.5.1 for some reason it disappeared and a little trial and error and I was able to get it to work on my hp omen 17-an012 w/ rx 580 8 gb.  I was losing my mind at the default clocks because the laptop runs 43-51c which is nice, but the performance is trash compared to a modest increase in power limit and a bump to the clocks. (about +20% power limit and ~+13% gpu clock in my case for optimal temperature in my environment)   Now I'm running ff15 4k edition again on highest w/ 48-60 fps and i'm only hitting 82-84c(90c TDP max) 

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