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Challenger

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

I absolutely hate the 2020 interface. Instead of focusing on fixing their drivers and maybe add new features, they decided to come up with a new interface which literally no one asked for.

Meanwhile, the driver functionality is broken.

Wait for Vertical Refresh still only works with OpenGL. No option for Half Vsync whatsoever.

Unless your GPU is maxed out Anti-Lag actually increases your input latency.

Tons of crashes for the RX 5000 series.

If you are hoping that AMD is eventually gonna redeem themselves, well, I can tell your from my own experience that it wont happen. For reference, I'm an RX 480 user, and I had to wait 8 months in the past for them to fix an intermittent crash which prevented any AMD user to play Overwatch. Tons of complains from users, tons of forum threads on both AMD's and Blizzard's forums. And they eventually fixed it.... AFTER 8 MONTHS.

So this basically sums up my experience with AMD drivers. They always say that they are "working on improving the drivers" but they never actually do it. As much as I hate Nvidia's marketing tactics, my next card is gonna be from team green, solely for the drivers. They may not have the best looking driver interface, but at least the driver is functional and there are regular updates with various hotfixes. Unlike AMD where you have to wait months for a new driver release, hoping that it fixes whatever issue you've got. 

Oh, and that "We read and value every issue reporting form that's sent to us" is completely BS.

colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

Nvidia control panel does look a bit old, the resolution scaling does need some work at 4K for sure, however I find that it works.
I have not had a crash with it for years.
I have had no PC freezes/BSODS/Audio Buzzes/Lockups at all.

A few games, have crashed on me a few times in the past year using Nvidia cards. But all that happens is the game shuts down.

No one seems to mention Nvidia GeForce Experience on here and the all seem to focus on Nvidia Control Panel.
I have been using Nvidia GeForce Experience for a few years now.
You do have to sign in to Nvidia to use it. I think that is needed because it needs user data as it provides Game Settings Optimization.

At least you have a choice to use Nvidia GeForce Experience or not.
It can be run separately from the Nvidia Control Panel.
This new Adrenalin 2020 driver has Web browser integration - so what is the choice or security of using that?

The layout of Nvidia GeForce Experience is much better than this Adrenalin 2020 GUI, and much easier to use.

I simply do not understand what the purpose of Adrenalin 2020 is.
I think the Radeon Overlay in Adrenalin 2019 19.12.1 is better and easier to use and more stable than the Overlay in Adrenalin 2020.
The Adrenalin 2019 Driver GUI/UI is much easier to navigate and to compare Global versus Profile settings.

No-one asked any AMD GPU user I know if this new GUI was a good idea or asked if people would prefer to keep the existing GUI but have features fixed or improved (Chill) and a more stable driver instead.

I see that the Adrenalin 2020 Game Advisor still runs every time I launch a game/application and I cannot switch it off. This means the data it reports is nonsense.

The Game Advisor can be run manually in Adrenalin 2019 19.12.1 from the Radeon Performance Overlay and I think it is is actually a useful benchmarking and performance analysis tool, even though simply turning on the Radeon Performance Overlay drops a couple of FPS anyhow.

Simple things like:
Better resolution scaling.
Thinking about the ergonomics of the Adrenalin 2020 GUI/UI so fewer clicks are needed if navigating between global and Game profile settings.
Reducing the ridiculous size of buttons and combining button title and switch like on Adrenalin 2019 to save space so you do not need to "information hide" the settings I want to use under the "Advanced v" TAB.  Having to use a scroll bar just to see settings which could have easily been fit on the screen is another major ergonomics failure in GUI design.
There is no memory in the GUI if the user has expanded these "Advanced v" tabs or not. Making this another ergonomics failure. Move away from what you were looking at, come back to it, the settings have been minimised.
Maybe giving the user an "Advanced" or "Basic" option in settings so these "Advanced v" minimised settings can be either shown or minimised all the time.

Seriously trying to use this new Adrenalin 2020 GUI/UI is really incredibly frustrating and hard work.
It is also very unstable.
Turning on a sidebar to show information such as FPS or game settings should not crash your game or BSOD your PC.

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?


I am still unable to tidy up this Home page by turning off things I am not interested in, other than the Upgrade Advisor. 
Can you see that Average FPS for BFV of 40.5? - It is nonsense because that Game Advisor is running all the time even when the game is not being played and I am just setting up menu options or the game is paused. I know what driver I am running. I am not interested in AMD Link, or tutorials etc etc.

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This is as tidy as it gets - Only Upgrade Advisor can be removed.

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This entire Adrenalin 2020 driver GUI/UI and stability is it's own "Upgrade Advisor" in any case.
It is telling me to upgrade to Nvidia GPUs and Drivers because it is so bad.

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

I see screen corruption in the Adrenalin 20200 GUI/UI when running BFV:

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

Adrenalin 2020 20.1.1
BFV 4K Ultra settings.
Textures set to performance otherwise the GPU crashes.
RX Vega 64 Liquid.
Global Chill Min = Chill_max = 59 in an attempt to limit FPS to 59, 1 FPS below top end of FreeSync range = 60.
Game Profile Chill_Min = 30, Chill_max = 300 - need to set 30 to save power and 300 so I hit the gigantic value of 55 FPS with Chill on and Shift+W or W key pressed down to allow game character to run or walk.

Chill at rest 30FPS, 134W.
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Chill Walking (hold W key down): I get a maximum of 55 FPS (internal Chill Limit that needs to be user adjustable - I would like 59...) 273 Watts. 
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Looking up at the sky and repeatedly tapping W key: 80 FPS, 277W.
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The FPS should be limited to 59 FPS.
The monitor FreeSync top end limit is 60 FPS.
Running at 80 FPS is burning more power than needed.
Global FRTC would stop this.

Note Rapid mouse movement is locked to 30FPS (Chill_Min)  for this game with Chill on, at least for the 3 times I launched the game and on this Combined ARMS operation. It doesn't always lock to Chill_Min though.

You need Global FRTC back in the driver for Chill and other reasons.

Other points to note in the above shots.


The Radeon Performance Overlay cannot/will not report FPS!
The Radeon Performance Overlay cannot/will not Ryzen 2700X CPU Utilization > 0.

I am seeing screen corruption in the Radeon Performance Overlay if I alt Z/R and go back to the game:

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Way to go.

I have already filed AMD Reporting forms pointing to this thread so if AMD have any Software QA people they can look at this post.
I am not wasting my time filing any more reports.

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

Forgot to mention.

Setting Chill Hot Key to Alt+W does NOTHING.
I normally set Alt+W so i can do an emergency Chill cooldown whist gaming on RX Vega 64 Liquid or turn Chill off if I want more than 55 FPS...
F11 is the only hotkey for Chill.

Using F11 is again an ergonomic fail.
Either take left hand off keyboard or right hand off mouse or hit F11 with your nose...
Either way distracts from gaming.
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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

Here is the link to the thread you asked for sgtbilko
As you can see I have done lots of testing on this new Adrenalin 2020 interface.
It is very buggy and has many UI/GUI design issues.
I have tested each version on it on a clean install of Windows 10 Pro.
This thread was opened on 11 December 2019, no responses from AMD GUI/UI/Drivers team that I can see to address any issues I pointed out. That is why I discussed it with you on Red Team Discord today for a short time.

I hope AMD enjoy the free testing done by everyone on here.

https://community.amd.com/thread/246238 

colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

Based on trying out Adrenalin 20.1.3 today. 
Compatibility Scroll bar missing.
Still advising users to upgrade to an EOL product - Radeon VII.
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Cannot use settings to clean up the messy home page:
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Ridiculously large UI scaling, requiring use of a scrollbar, why are two buttons not combined into  on the LHS with radio button. Why is the Advanced Tab not on the lower RHS of the screen?: 
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Look at GPU 2 for example:
I still have to scroll down the screen to see advanced settings: pastedImage_4.png
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If I move to hotkeys and back to the above grapics menu all Advanced Tabs get closed.
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Global FRTC has been removed from the Drivers. Radeon Chill is not a replacement. Please do not tell me to use Chill_MIN = CHILL_MAX = Frame Rate Limit. I need Global FRTC to limit peak FPS with Radeon Chill in many cases.

I have not tested the stability of 20.1.3. versus the previous Adrenalin 2020 releases, and I am not going to.
I have no time and AMD should be testing their own drivers before releasing them.

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hardcoregames_
Big Boss

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

I also noticed the scroll bar was missing

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colesdav
MVP

Re: Do you like the new interface of Adrenalin 2020 Edition?

DDU in safe mode to remove AMD 2020 20.1.3  + boot into Windows 10 + Connect internet.
Sit for ~ 2-5 minutes.
Windows 10 installs old AMD Adrenalin 2019 and earlier drivers for my AMD GPUs.
Start the new Adrenalin 2020 20.1.3 installer. 
It simply proceeds to install drivers and does not see the Microsoft installed version.
Congratulations on not fixing this. 


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