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nec_v20
Challenger

Ryzen voltage

It is a pretty pathetic state of affairs that the Ryzen CPUs are still, even after ABBA, overvolted to the tune of 0.1 Volts or more.

There would be no problem hitting the advertised clock speeds if the CPU didn't get swamped with a ridiculous amount of volts.

The Ryzen Master software should have a way of setting a voltage offset, so that this power hunger can be tamed.

If this is not seen to, then AMD can start seeing a lot more people get pissed off - and if, as a result of this overvolting, CPUs start to fail then I can see a class-action lawsuit coming their way.

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benman2785
Big Boss

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

0.1 is not a big-overvolt
maybe see if your MoBo Bios can set an Offset (this is what i do with my 2600X)

PC: R7 2700X @4.1GHz + RX 580 4G (1500MHz/2000MHz CL16) + 32G DDR4-3200CL14 + 144hz 1ms FS P + 75hz 1ms FS
Laptop: R5 2500U @30W + RX 560X (1400MHz/1500MHz) + 16G DDR4-2400CL16 + 120Hz 3ms FS
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nec_v20
Challenger

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

0.1 volt is the difference between 1.39 and 1.29 Volts.

Now you will be running your 2600X on around 1.24 Volts - now go and increase that up to 1.34 Volts and see what that does to your temps.

Setting a Motherboard offset messes up the single core boost.

olympicasseater
Adept III

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

My issue can be found here: Ryzen 7 3700x high temp with Noctua NH D15S cooler 

Idling is 57C

Surfing on the web occasionally 70C

Playing Battlefield V multiplayers working close to 80C

Aida64 with CPU,FPU,Cache, and Memory check default yield 90C to 95C

CPU max stock voltage is near 1.5v or 1.5v . It spike to 1.45v - 1.5v with temp increase rapidly! Open notepad will make it jump 0.9v to 1.45v in no time.  While surfing on the web, I see 0.9v jump to 1.4ishv more than 1.3 and below. Only see below 1.3v and below if the cpu is at 100% usage. At 100% usage, CPU will drop to 4Ghz with 1.3V and sometimes 1.2V

Everyday  usage will be 0.9v to 1.4v - 1.5v. I am now questioning the longevity of this r7 3700x because I want to keep it for at least 8 years before upgrading like the FX 8350.

This chip is cool by D15s air cooler.

I try offset negative .5 to .7 but my system crash in Aida64 stress test and normal usage like what the *beep*?

olympicasseater
Adept III

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

0.1v is a lot of different mate.  1.2v to 1.3v is a big jump in temperature. The same with 1.3v to 1.4V

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nec_v20
Challenger

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

Let me go for the most obvious thing first, have you updated the BIOS to 1.0.0.3ABBA yet? If not, then that is the very first thing you should do and you should do that immediately.

The other thing I would like to ask you is, when you applied the thermal paste (TIM) did you do the usual "Grain of rice" sized blob in the middle and then put the cooler on (I take it you did use the Noctua TIM that came with the cooler)? This was a good way of applying TIM when the hottest spot was in the centre of the PCB, however with the Ryzen 3000 series of CPUs the hottest spot is in a corner of PCB because the CPU (chiplet) is no longer located in the centre.

What this means is that there is a good chance that quite a bit of that hotspot is not covered with TIM and is not transferring heat to the cooler. I have a Noctua NH-U12A cooler and you can see my temps under load above - and my fans are not even ramping up to the point where they are audible. I have spread the TIM making sure that the entire IHS (Integrated Heat Spreader) is covered.

You shouldn't be afraid to put a bit more onto the CPU because the Noctua thermal paste is not electrically conductive and won't cause a short if you use a bit too much. The thing is that if you have the IHS covered, then, as you use the system the excess will be "pumped" out causing a very thin film of paste to interface between the IHS and the cooler.

With the grain of rice method the paste will not spread to where it is needed as you screw down the cooler.

On idle my system ticks over at 1.05 Volts at 29.5° C. Because I have had two spine operations and I have spinal arthritis I keep my room quite warm.

Another thing to consider is that ASUS are nasty about how they configure their BIOS so that they "win" in benchmarks and you should check to see what values the BIOS configures the system.

Under no circumstances should you use any overclocking options offered by the motherboard. I have found with my system that this conflicts with Ryzen Master and results very unstable clocks (I have a GigaByte AURUS X470 Gaming 7 WiFi motherboard running the ABBA BIOS).

olympicasseater
Adept III

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

I am on the 1.0.0.3ABBA and latest BIOS for my X470F from ASUS

I use the double lines method with MX4 paste

Putting more paste on CPU will cause high temp issue and possibly get out of the cpu pcb and onto the pins.

Disable PBO no work on temp. Aida64 with CPU,FPU,Memory, and Cache stress test will yield 90C to 95C.

I can dial 4.2ghz and  manual 1.3v in BIOS  but on idle my cpu clock speed and voltage is not going down? Latest Windows and amd chipset. Ryzen balance power with min processor 10% and max 100%.

nec_v20
Challenger

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

I have looked around and you are not the only one having these problems, and they have been reported even on ASUS forums and ASUS is doing absolutely NOTHING about it, and have been doing NOTHING for over a year.

I would suggest getting rid of that piece of garbage before it fries your CPU.

olympicasseater
Adept III

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

Can you share the link or source?

I replace MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon for this X470F because MSI still have a boot time issue and slow in updating BIOS......

nec_v20
Challenger

Re: Ryzen voltage still sucks

Not just one link, but rather a hell of a lot of them, just put the following search term into google:

high temperature ROG Strix X470 F

You will see that you are not alone.