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AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

  • Marketing:

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Reality:

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I own a X370-F and it has been more than 6 months without any bios update, no ABBA 1.04 with per CCX overclocking.
AMD sold me a 3600 with a very bad silicon quality, one of the CCX can't even boost to 4.2Ghz reliably.

So i really need per CCX oc to replace Ryzen Master because it can't apply the oc automatically at boot!

Can the Community Manager woke up some folks at AMD to force ASUS to deliver a bios update for the old x370 board, enforcing the AMD policy marketed in the slide posted before!
Also the x370-F is kinda a flagship mb, it still sell for 230e here in France, still no real support from both companies!

To sum up, i had the choice between an Intel 8700k and an AMD 3600, i did the wrong choice and i regret going AMD.

Not because of the mb, i got no real trouble with ASUS this time, aside the bios updates.
But overall, even if the 3600 is cheaper, some of these cpu have a very bad silicon quality that make me regret even a bad 8700k.

This thread required no answers and it is solely directed to AMD Staff.

Also i'm a fine overclocker, hardware reviewer working in the IT field, no need to come here with not knowledgeable posts asking to try this or that, thanks you!

Bonus: The Rig we are speaking about, built initially for streaming games and withstand high compute loads.

Stable under heavy load: 3600@4225/4175Mhz, DDR/FCLK@1900Mhz C16, GTX1080@2152Mhz!

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

First Gen Ryzen motherboards were craptastic at best.

This is because the motherboard manufacturers didn't know if Ryzen would make any impact and they didn't want to put their resources into Ryzen motherboards when they could be making loads of money from selling Intel motherboards.

Not only that, but Intel quite literally bribes motherboard manufacturers to make Intel motherboards, to the extent that motherboard manufacturers make more from Intel per board sold than they do from the actual sale itself.

This is not the case with AMD, where the motherboards have to be profitable on their own merit.

There was no incentive for them to make high end motherboards for the first gen Ryzen CPUs.

First gen boards may work with first and second gen Ryzen, but the VRMs and other componentry just cannot be depended on to work reliably with third or even fourth gen Ryzen.

MSI will be bringing out a new board soon called the MSI X570 Tomahawk WiFi for around $210 and you might want to give that a look.

It has features that you normally don't find on a motherboard for under $300+

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

This thread required no answers and it is solely directed to AMD Staff.

Also i'm a fine overclocker, hardware reviewer working in the IT field, no need to come here with not knowledgeable posts asking to try this or that, thanks you!

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

  • Moment of Joy:

Finally, even if it is very late!

Thanks you!!!!!

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Anonymous
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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

  • But:

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

  • Meanwhile:

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Now, how much ASUS users with old x370/b350 will have to wait to get this 1.0.0.5 microcode update?

It took nearly 7 month to deliver a bios that is 5 month old dated, for the x370-F Strix?!
Maybe when AMD tape out the Ryzen 4 series?!
This is really unacceptable!!

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

AMD never promised that every motherboard will support new gen of CPUs. You must have misunderstood them. AMD said that AM4 will be compatible with next gen CPUs, but it's up to the motherboard producers to introduce compatibility patch. AMD doesn't force anyone to do that. 

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Exemplar
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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

as rainingtacco said - its ASUS fault and not AMDs...

i dont have that problem with my Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

This thread required no answers and it is solely directed to AMD Staff.

Also i'm a fine overclocker, hardware reviewer working in the IT field, no need to come here with not knowledgeable posts, asking to try this or that, thanks you!

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Re: AMD: Marketing VS Reality!

This thread required no answers and it is solely directed to AMD Staff.

Also i'm a fine overclocker, hardware reviewer working in the IT field, no need to come here with not knowledgeable posts, asking to try this or that, thanks you!

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