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Radeon™ VII is Available Now

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AMD’s next high-end graphics card for gaming and content creation has arrived: the RadeonVII, the world’s first 7nm gaming graphics card, hits shelves today.

 

With gaming performance, bandwidth and creation needing more and more memory each year, RadeonVII brings 1 TB/s of memory bandwidth and 16 GB of HBM2 massive memory in as a supercharged “Vega” architecture* to gamers, creators and enthusiasts everywhere. Read the blog on why Radeon® VII with 16 GB of VRAM capacity is a huge benefit for today’s gamers and creators.

 

Take advantage of RadeonVII’s massive memory for super smooth gameplay and content creation:

 

  • Gamers: Experience max resolutions, max framerates and max settings in the latest AAA/esports games and unrestrained streaming**. Pair your experience with a FreeSync 2 HDR technology-capable monitor for a premium buttery-smooth experience.
  • Creators: Push your limits with 8K editing and enhanced real-time performance.

 

For gamers who demand excellence and content creators who need perfection, discover the RadeonVII graphics card now:

DISCOVER THE RADEON™ VII

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“Vega” is a codename for AMD architectures, and is not a product name. GD-122

Testing done by AMD performance labs 1/3/19 on Ryzen 7 2700X,16GB DDR4 3000MHz, Radeon VII, AMD Driver 18.50, and Windows 10. Using Fortnite 1080p Max settings  Radeon VII scored 127 fps. Fortnite 1080p Max settings and HD streaming to Twitch 1080p (1080p @ 60fps, 6 Mbps, AMF encoder) Radeon VII scored 123 fps. PC manufacturers may vary configurations yielding different results. All scores are an average of 3 runs with the same settings. Performance may vary based on use of latest drivers. RX-272

22 Comments
Adept III
Adept III

I planned on purchasing the Radeon 7 today, but I decided to look at some objective reviews. Hardware Canucks and Hardware Unboxed had 2 fairly objective reviews posted on You Tube. It is apparent that in many games that this card is not competitive at 1440P or even 4K with the RTX 2080. Yes, it does well in some but not nearly enough games for a $700 card. AMD had they wanted this card to win mindshare and succeed made three critical errors. They should  have done some architectural tweaks, like increasing ROPS to 128, NOT whittling down FP64, and installing Bequiet fans on these cards. The Radeon 7 card with weakened compute has little computational advantage over RTX 2080.  This was proven in some content creation tests done on Hardware Canucks. So we have a noisy, underperforming high end gaming card that has lots of memory but not the tools to really make optimal use of it in gaming and workloads. I will hold onto my 1080 Ti another 10 to 12 months hoping AMD repairs it's very damaged GPU image when Navi 20 rolls out. I really do not want to give another dime to Nvidia, but AMD has to do better than this. This was a disingenuous PR stunt that was poorly conceived and flopped on its face. These issues can not really be attributed to drivers as this is merely a die shrink from 14nm Vega without architectural changes.So the current drivers should be very close to optimal. But of course they are NOT optimal. This was proven by Der Bauer when he tried extreme overclocking the readouts were just all over the place. He was able to do an overclock using the autooverclock feature, But the driver made it impossible to manually overclock in a scientific way.  Having a badly defective driver on launch day is something that gives a black eye to AMD. Initial impressions HAVE to be good.. AMD should have learned that lesson from the Vega 56 and 64 fiasco. But they have not learned it. Instead they release a defective driver for Radeon 7 and also fail to supply vendors and even their own website with an adequate supply of cards. This was NOT due to overwhelming demand but to inadequate supply only. This launch should have been delayed a month so the driver and supply issues could have been smoothed out. Radeon 7 could have been a golden opportunity, but instead it was done in a haphazard and self-defeating way.

        I want to make it clear I had exclusively purchased AMD graphics cards until after my disappointment with Vega 56. I have done my own builds for about 20 years. Now as a I approach my 70th year I plan on my next build incorporating a Ryzen Zen 2 12 or 16 core cpu.  I have been a very loyal and enthusiastic user of your Bulldzoer and Piledriver cpus and Ryzen 1800X and now 2700X cpus. I look forward to high end Navi gpus.  I understand they have a substantialm delay until next October. I hope those reports are not true and that the 7nm process yields are close to optimal. You can not make these errors with Navi and any further delay with Navi will be disastrous.

Adept II
Adept II

Regarding the FP64, per PC World's recent video, it seems FP64 has not been nuked (maybe a bit reduced) but in their tests, FP64 performance was hugely higher than the RTX2080.

Their conclusion was that if you wanted future-proofingand want the raytracing veneer, you go for the 2080, if you need more compute and to futire-proof with the 16GB of memory (and of course HBCC on top of that) you go for the Radeon VII.

If you just game, you pick the one that works best for your monitor resolution/refresh in the games you play (note how good VII is in BFV for example).

In a lot of cases if you are at 1080p/60 or even 1440P/60, gaming FPS will be capped by the monitor, so the frame times etc. (where the VII seems to perform well per the AMD press release) are more important.

The noise level would be my biggest issue, but I usually add a water block to cards.

I wish more reviewers would do that and then report on coil-whine (which gets really bad with a block on in many cases) as well as WC performance.

I beleive there were some archtectural changes and possibly some new instructions, the latter will of course need to be incorporated into games and/or drivers before we see any benefit.

Adept III
Adept III

  The issue with this card besides excessive fan noise is the fact that

in titles NOT optimized for AMD the results are so poor that the card

overall performs slightly worse than both the 1080 Ti and the RTX 2080.

Unless a future driver update has a positive uptick for performance the

card is a disappointment for its price/performance ratio,. The fact AMD

chose to make the card without the ability for crossfire is also a

disappointment. There is NO gpu block made for this card and there is

unlikely to be such a waterblock. I am not customizing waterblocks and

at age 69 near 70. I am NOT about to start now. Somebody, I believe i

was Hardware Canucks did benchmarks for content creation with both

DaVinci and Adobe Premier. They compared Radeon 7 with RTX 1080 and 1080

Ti. There was zero advantage for this card timewise. It was actually

slower for most tasks.

Adept II
Adept II

We'll need to keep an eye on drivers.

I can't beleive there will not be crossfire, it's on the previous Vegas and its scaling has historically been much better than the competition. AMD should do a deal where you can buy two for less than the price of a 2080ti once CF works.

IIRC Crossfire supporting drivers for 56/64 did not appear for a few months after launch.  Presumably DX mGPU would still work.

GPU blocks were also not out at launch for Vega but did come, it will depend on how well they sell.

It is definitely a case of pick the right card for your use cases (workload).

If it was 100 - 200 cheaper it would make a lot more sense though or if the next driver adds 10-15% in the poorer results, not that that's very likely unfortunately.

Adept III
Adept III

  The hardware to allow for crossfire is NOT present on the card. This

was pointed by more than one reviewer.

Miniboss
Miniboss

*Waits for Navi*

Adept II
Adept II

That's truly bizzare given CF works over the PCIe bus.

Adept III
Adept III

  Ask AMD if you don't believe the reviews.

Adept III
Adept III

I would like to buy it . But again the gpus  out of stock wont help amd get marketshare . Now there all scalped on ebay. I dont think amd wants there cards scalped . Id like to buy one on amd site or have me one sent for review. 

Adept I
Adept I

You can also go for the other online platform.

Adept III
Adept III

I asked the local supplier
Asus said that I don't know
PowerColor said that I don't know
Sapphire dealers told me that Radeon VII supports AMD CrossFire

Adept II
Adept II

os2wiz

Please link a (text) review where you see this "no crossfire hardware" mentioned, I looked at TechPowerUp, TechSpot (Hardware unboxed) and GamersNexus and did a search for "cross" and found no mention of crossfire.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'd just like a link as it does seem very odd.

Likewise, is there something showing that it wouldn't work in applications/games that support DirectX explicit mGPU?

The lower tier NV cards lack the SLI bridges, but for several generations AMD has not needed/used bridges, I imagine there is a compositor of some sort in the chips, is that what has been said to be missing?  There could be ways around that, especially with 16GB + HBCC, i.e. dedicate a portion of card 1 as card 2's output buffer and render frames from there. i.e. it could be added in software later even if there is "less" hardware for it than Vega 10 based cards. 

I'm just talking about possibilities/potential here, given bridges are not needed.

It would be nice if someone from AMD, e.g. Robert Hallock chimed in, maybe amdmatt‌ could chase this up?

Thanks!

Adept III
Adept III

  Read all the reviews or go on Reddit for AMD and check on Radeon VII

and ask or AMD.com support. I do not have the time to cross search for you.

Adept III
Adept III

It has been available for over 3 hours on this amd.com website. They must have gotten a major replenishment but Newegg and other online retailers have no availability.I got an email notification after 9am and ordered it because the release driver solves the instability issues. The excessive fan noise still has to be addressed through another driver revision. I am now selling my MSI Gaming X Geforce GTX 1080 Ti. It performs as well as the Radeon 7, but if I decide to do content creation the FP64 support is far better and the extra memory will future proof the game. Hopefully AMD can get improved cooperation from developers so most games will be optimized for this GPU. Software optimizations would improve over all performance to equal or better than RTX 2080 instead of just competitive minus 7% from 2080 levels. Get to work on that AMD! Put more staff and money into garnering those optimizations. It is vital to ultimate success.

Adept III
Adept III

Can somebody tell me where I can download the Radeon VII video bios that corrects lack of UEFI  support?  It is supposed to be on this website but I am unable to find it.

Adept II
Adept II

I could say (like SOMEONE has on another topic!) that I won't bother searching for you and you can go and search yourself, but I will take the higher ground:

ASRock > Phantom Gaming X Radeon VII 16G 

As all boards are the same this should work and you can presumably update to a specific one if you use a different vendor once they have it on their web site.

Enjoy!

Adept I
Adept I

You should have provided reference PCBs to water block vendors right from the start. It feels like ages getting a proper cooling solution for this kind of GPU.

Adept III
Adept III

Mazie is right. To really get a modest  performance gain on this card the temps need improvement. A water block solution, preferably an aio water block would be very helpful. I guess I will give Alphacool a call.

Journeyman III
Journeyman III

This card appears to perform like a beast! Thanks for making this available to us.

Adept III
Adept III

FP64 is substantially whittled down on this card.  I changed my mind and ordered it when the drivers were fixed a couple of weeks ago. I have it in my system.  Gaming performance is about 10 percent lower than a 1080 Ti in most titles but in a few it is actually faster. If I could order an aio cooler for this card I could probably overclock it another 10% . But as yet I see none available. The supply issue is very serious. Availability is very sporadic. Since these are really Radeon Pros that are at the bottom of the barrel as far as binning is concerned very few of them overclock well. Mine crashes when I attempt to run it 1900mhz  while undervolting, even if I lower the HBM2 frequency 100mhz.  A waterblock would help a bit but my card is definitely not one of the better overclockers so Iam not sure spending the $200 on a gpu block would even be worth it .  I would improve temps but maybe only 5 or 6% performance with FPS in most games. I had a very solid 1080 Ti I sold when I bought this card. It was an MSI gaming X Twin Frozr. I got some amazing overclocks on that card. It  was well designed great vrm support as well. I am afraid even with the good vrm support AMD put on the Radeon 7 it just can't compensate for other design flaws like the limited ROPS in Vega. So I have lost over 10% performance over my previous card. I can live with it but I am not particularly ecstatic.

Adept III
Adept III

What pychotropics are you on.My 1080 Ti that I sold so could afford the Radeon 7 was more than 15% faster in most games. I had a high end card an MSI Gaming X . It overclocked quite well and was a beast in most benchmarks. This card is a weak sister to it.

Journeyman III
Journeyman III

So I ended up buying a Radeon VII at launch soon as it came out and as always it shipped late cause of Fedex delays but when it came in and opened it up it had some oddities about it. Like a green and blue dot sticker as well as masking tape with the number 572 on it. Hoping I didn't get a lemon or something.